[rob666]

Originally Posted by redfox2045 ↗

I do agree with you to an extent. Zimmerman shouldn't have left his car to follow him, but at the same time I understand where Zimmerman was coming from. He was a neighborhood watch officer who was concerned because a large troubled teenager was walking around in the middle of the night in the rain (Come on that just screams suspicious activity all day! And any police officer in the area would have called that probable cause all day).

However, this once again comes back to "No truely innocent person ever gets shot by the police(Or in this case police wanna-be's). It's pretty obviously Treyvon beat the shit out of Zimmerman, and if Zimmerman was overpowered as it appears, Lethal force is justified. And if Treyvon really felt that threatened, he should have either walked faster and get back to his house where he is safe...or idk...CALL THE FUCKING POLICE! You don't turn around and beat the shit out of someone just because they are following you.

Now that being said I don't know if Zimmerman grabbed him, or tried to stop him, or what happened. So if Zimmerman started a physical confrontation, and its provable (Which it doesn't appear to be since the only damage Treyvon had was the bullet hole) then its third degree at best. But if he just followed him and the fight started, there isn't much he did wrong. Last I checked it isn't illegal to follow someone down a public sidewalk while in your neighborhood.

It wasn't the middle of the night, it wasn't even completely dark outside........

[tnt2cu2]

Not a kid and not as innocent as they tried portraying. I'm not saying Zimmerman was right or wrong.....just hate the bull candy coated crap.

[banana dick]

the look on that kid's face is haunting.

[banana dick]

Originally Posted by HeadlessHorseman ↗

He was a "No limit *****" His own words. He was a street thug not the sweet little baby in the picture that was taken when he was 12. These are even way before he attacked and was shot. Where does a "kid" get all the money for tats and GOLD teeth, I work my ass of and I can't afford gold teeth.

he took pictures of himself giving the camera the middle finger? god, he was clearly a ruthless gangster and was asking for it.

[thehnl]

Watch the 7-11 security tapes... he was so weird and sketchy acting. Took fucking forever to grab change out of his pockets and then walks back around the store before walking out again. Regardless of race, I would have felt uncomfortable as the cashier. And he was a pretty tall guy, look at his six compared to the cashier. I don't believe the killing was justified but he was no baby faced child, he did come off as sketchy, Zimmerman was 'protectng' the community given this wasnt someone normally seen there, and trayvon probably put up a hell of a fight. But in no way do I think George should have felt his life was in danger unless shoving skittles and a watermelon drink down his throat was gonna happen.

[thehnl]

* not six -- I meant size... damn we need an edit!

[rob666]

Originally Posted by thehnl ↗

Watch the 7-11 security tapes... he was so weird and sketchy acting. Took fucking forever to grab change out of his pockets and then walks back around the store before walking out again. Regardless of race, I would have felt uncomfortable as the cashier. And he was a pretty tall guy, look at his six compared to the cashier. I don't believe the killing was justified but he was no baby faced child, he did come off as sketchy, Zimmerman was 'protectng' the community given this wasnt someone normally seen there, and trayvon probably put up a hell of a fight. But in no way do I think George should have felt his life was in danger unless shoving skittles and a watermelon drink down his throat was gonna happen.

Just asking, but how would Zimmerman have known if that was someone not normally seen there?

[Cyclon]

Originally Posted by diamondsmiles ↗

Zimmerman, as an adult in a vehicle, should have driven away! The 911 operator told him that!

He could have prevented the entire incident!

Strongly agree. This is a tragedy that could have been avoided (by both).

[rapeWhistle]

In my mind Zimmerman's guilt/innocence rests solely on if he tried to physically restrain Martin that night. If he grabbed him and tried to stop him - and an ass-whipping resulted whereupon he fired his weapon, he is guilty. If he merely verbally engaged Martin - who then initiated the assault on Zimmerman, he was within his rights to defend himself with deadly force.
I'm not sure how the prosecution and the defense will go about proving or disproving how the conflict escalated, especially with the man on trial being the only living witness of the incident.

[Deeticky]

Originally Posted by rob666 ↗

Just asking, but how would Zimmerman have known if that was someone not normally seen there?

Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch for that area. That neighborhood had recently experienced a string of robberies.