Originally Posted by Lieberfrau ↗

LOL are you implying that the USA - the great America - can be pushed into bombing a country by a couple of Jews? Stranglehold? What do we have on the US? As much as I hate to admit it, the US is nursing our financial needs, so if any country is the other's bitch, I'm pretty sure we are the one with the cunt.

No, Iraq had no WMDs and Osama was innocent in 9/11, but that doesn't make it our fault. Rumor has it, Iraq is an oily place, and the American public needed a temporary scapegoat for instant gratification.

America is great thanks. Ever been?

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Originally Posted by Creepy ↗

yer not even making sense.

who is talking about shoving a gun in a police officers face? and are you really trying to use some point about weapons and homicide and mass killings being a uniquely american issue?

like a little mouse on a wheel saying shit oVER AND OVER AND OVER. THIS IS A WORLD WIDE PROBLEM.

The lunatics are rife.

Way to be a total fuckhead with stereotypical bullshit.

You're American and you say you have yet to see your own people talk about the tyranny of the state?

I dont even watch that much TV news or read into what a lot of yanks have to say on these gun issues because they dont know shit about not having a gun within easy reach.

Yet I have seen, heard and watched how Americans react to the Police, FBI and ATF banging on their door.

Apparently the vast majority of these idiots would think bringing a gun to a armed force is a good idea. Ice T said this word for word almost on a little interview for Channel 4 news here in the UK.

Also I will like to point out the very BIG obvious flaw in American society.

You claim to want guns for those nutjobs who may kill you on a daily routine.

Are you a military roughneck with experience on spotting a dangerous and armed person?

Majority of you are NOT experienced in detecting the most obvious danger signs about someone who is going to cause harm.

So what good is your gun when you are dead or severely injured?

In any instance, you are just a big a problem as the gunman themselves. You will shoot wildly at them given the chance and you will kill or injure someone behind them.

This isn't a fucking movie, the guy has an auto-loader/semi-automatic weapon aimed AT YOU and you think you'll have the balls to stand firm and do a Dirty Harry?

Get fucking real Ms America. You will die just as easily with a gun than without.

Smart people run or get cover, dumb people stand their ground unless they are trying to get the gunman away from their loved ones.

Originally Posted by kasapin ↗

this was expected... many people predicted it....too bad a lot of people watch only the news on TV and don't know what is really happening.

enlighten us news watchers.

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Originally Posted by sinblend ↗

I'll give up my gun
As long as you're not one of the 17+1 people to try and take it.

On a serious a note, an armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when you might have to back up your actions with your life.

An armed society is one that just looks for an excuse to use it.

Park your car where it doesn't belong even though I told you where to park it? I SHOOT YOU!

Jump into line in front of other people? I SHOOT YOU!

Fuck my wife? I KILL YOU! Then shoot myself to make it look like I'm not a murderer.

USA has a shit ton of problems made worse by your poor social ineptitude.

Too many poor donw on their luck people for you to live without guns I agree. Hundreds of those people get shot each week but when it comes to people like you getting wasted in a cinema?

Holy shit we have to defend the gun laws Batman!

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Originally Posted by Lieberfrau ↗

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If no one owned them, then no one would abuse them.
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Again...if we banned guns...would EVERYONE turn theirs in?

If we (as one member said already that I thought was funny) "could throw pixie dust in the air and click our heels three times and make all guns disappear" would people all of a sudden not use other means such as knives, bombs, arrows, fire, etc. to attack others?

If your answer is yes to either of those questions you're crazy or stupid for having that much confidence in people.

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Originally Posted by ices ↗

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This isn't a fucking movie, the guy has an auto-loader/semi-automatic weapon aimed AT YOU and you think you'll have the balls to stand firm and do a Dirty Harry?

Get fucking real Ms America. You will die just as easily with a gun than without.

Smart people run or get cover, dumb people stand their ground unless they are trying to get the gunman away from their loved ones.

Last I checked a bullet goes faster than you can run, especially in a room with one available exit. You can bet your ass I would attempt to stop a person shooting if I was close enough. If we were there and I went after the guy preventing him from shooting you and your family, you'd go around telling everyone I was dumb for not hiding?

Originally Posted by ices ↗

You're American and you say you have yet to see your own people talk about the tyranny of the state?

I dont even watch that much TV news or read into what a lot of yanks have to say on these gun issues because they dont know shit about not having a gun within easy reach.

Yet I have seen, heard and watched how Americans react to the Police, FBI and ATF banging on their door.

Apparently the vast majority of these idiots would think bringing a gun to a armed force is a good idea. Ice T said this word for word almost on a little interview for Channel 4 news here in the UK.

Also I will like to point out the very BIG obvious flaw in American society.

You claim to want guns for those nutjobs who may kill you on a daily routine.

Are you a military roughneck with experience on spotting a dangerous and armed person?

Majority of you are NOT experienced in detecting the most obvious danger signs about someone who is going to cause harm.

So what good is your gun when you are dead or severely injured?

In any instance, you are just a big a problem as the gunman themselves. You will shoot wildly at them given the chance and you will kill or injure someone behind them.

This isn't a fucking movie, the guy has an auto-loader/semi-automatic weapon aimed AT YOU and you think you'll have the balls to stand firm and do a Dirty Harry?

Get fucking real Ms America. You will die just as easily with a gun than without.

Smart people run or get cover, dumb people stand their ground unless they are trying to get the gunman away from their loved ones.

You have no idea what level of gun safety or training I have. Captain Penis. I'm not wasting another day in here arguing with people that do NOT even live here the wisdom of gun banning/ownership.

If I were to carry a concealed weapon and be in a situation like this I have no idea what my instinct would be. You make so many assumptions about me. If some cunt came into my home bent on destruction of my life, family, or property. His/her ass would be dead. Nobody behind them or in front of them or near them. I am so capable with a weapon.

Ice - T represents all Americans does he? Not even remotely. He's a fucking individual with an opinion that doesn't represent mine. I support my men and women in public service. I salute the courage they have. Respect. It isn't black and white. Ice-T word is bond. so I have to believe it. Bless Freedom of thought and expression.

I know yer country is a far cry from zero deaths from violence. Can you spot the guy/group of thugs that are gonna take you down for yer laptop and stab you in yer gut?

Shut up already. America has a crazy people problem. Not a gun problem. We certainly aren't alone in this distinction.

social ineptitude. what a crock of shit. all americans are socially inept :D

way to blanket statement shit.

to me that is just lack of reason and intelligence.

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I can't even get a gun. I have a felony (at least it is in the USA). Moving to the U.K. soon (dual-citizenship), so it really doesn't matter for me.

Steroid Possession -

USA: Likely a felony as in my case
U.K.: Not even a crime. Same with most of the rest of Europe.

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I actually have quite a few friends that live bout 10 mins away from where this happened. a few went but they did manage to get out unharmed, though only one had been slightly hurt but not enough to warrent going to the hospital. (scrap slightly from "debris")