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He probably had a poorly mounted can lacking a Nielsen device/booster assembly. The pistol (if a tilt-barrel) WILL jam without it.

Not a Welrod, and I doubt it was a Station Six. Just a cobbled together gun and can.
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If he is smart he should be in another country by now with no extradition treaty with US and a new name with new identity.
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I work for a hospital system. The Medicare HMOs are bad actors. They are required by law to provide coverage at a level no less than Traditional Medicare offers. But here's the rub: they have authorization requirements and medical policies (traditional Medicare requires no authorizations) DIFFERENT from traditional Medicare that opens the door for them to deny payment to the hospitals for services provided. The "no payment" landmines are planted everywhere. The hospital cannot just bill the patient when their claim is denied, they have to eat it. I can't go into a lot of detail here other than to say the HMO practices are set up where they win and the hospital loses 95% of the time. Every claim they don't pay is money they get to keep.
Now, hospitals systems have had enough are are not renewing their contracts with these payers, which means the patient calls to make an appointment and are told "we no longer accept your insurance".
Sadly, John Q Public suffers but this is the ONLY lever the health system has. Our government refuses to get involved. They mandate the HMO to offer the same level of coverage but then say "we can't get involved in private sector" when trying to get the governments help with the HMOs shitty business practices.
We don't yet know what happened in this particular case but I'll bet we find out it was someone who, or their family member, needed a particular service the insurance wouldn't authorize (a landmine) and essentially told them: "too bad. Guess you'll just have to die".
I fully agree. That guy himself was denied life saving treatment, OR it was someone he loves very much .. yeah, it would not be a surprise.
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Bullet holes were a preexisting condition so United Health couldn't cover it
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I think it was a combination of the silencer and subsonic ammunition that caused the jamming. Hearing regular and subsonic ammo on a pistol with a silencer........the difference is night & day.

The problem with subsonic ammo is there's significantly less gas.......gas that's needed to expel the shell casing, cycle the bolt, loading the next round.

It's a shame he didn't encounter a squib.
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Not true. Handguns have much more issues cycling compared to rifles that are suppressed. You can find the right combination of pistol, ammo and suppressor then you can have reliability you speak of. Source: own multiple handguns, rifles and suppressors

Also, this guy was not a professional. A professional would have worked that out before going to work

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2 pictures from New York International Hostel where the suspect stayed recently and was photographed without a facemask. A police flier about the search for the shooter was pinned on a nearby lamp post.
EXCELLENT addition, thank you!
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I think it was a combination of the silencer and subsonic ammunition that caused the jamming. Hearing regular and subsonic ammo on a pistol with a silencer........the difference is night & day.

The problem with subsonic ammo is there's significantly less gas.......gas that's needed to expel the shell casing, cycle the bolt, loading the next round.

It's a shame he didn't encounter a squib.
Not true. Or not entirely true. With the expected back pressure a can could produce, there's a greater return force in the weapon firing, or else all subsonic ammunition would not function outside of bolt action or single shot weapons. Some weapons, and cans, will vary on performance regardless. And of course, ammunition.
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Kind of reminds me of the plot of the movie John Q starring Denzel Washington. I wonder if someone close to him died or he was financially ruined because they denied coverage?

Because this is a high profile case, I'm almost positive we'll eventually find out why.

Our system for reimbursing healthcare is truly screwed up.

Many case managers don't really think of the implications that their coverage decision can have on someone's life. Such decisions are often based on the reviewers individual interpretation of the coverage criteria or the healthcare provider's knowledge of the specific codes and phrases to use in their documentation.

Then there's pricing. Medicare and private insurance pay only a portion of what gets billed--which is based on the Medicare allowable. To receive the full amount, they must bill more than the actual allowable--which is typically <2/3 of the bill.

Unfortunately, the only person may could held responsible for the entire amount is someone without insurance. Sure, the hospital seldom recoups the full amount, but it's not uncommon for cases to be sent to collections. A number of hospitals are even taking their patients to court. Additionally, the costs of any care that gets written off will eventually be reflected in their pricing.
They are saying that each of the 3 bullets had a phrase from United Healthcare's "decline coverage" program. 1 said "Deny", the 2nd said "Delay" and the 3rd one said "Depose" which were apparently UH's standard for denying care for people who were older, poor, on the edge of or already in Alzheimer's, or too frail or poor to fight back. Most did not even appeal denials, (Which the court said were denials that were canceled in 99% of the cases when the patients appealed them, but which only a few patients were willing or able to do!) There are court cases ongoing against UH right now, and more probably coming. So yeah, my training at the Colombian School of Forensic Science and Plumbing tells me "Yeah, someone had a grudge!" the same way looking at a drug guy who was cut into pieces, castrated, had his penis placed in his mouth, and was set on fire leads me to believe "Yeah, someone had a grudge!"
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Here in my country, I think the companies that are most hated and have the most lawsuits are the health plans.


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