[pokerplay]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

So? Did he fucking draw on them? No. He didn't. He was a US citizen with a legal carry permit.

You're such a cucked bootlicking cunt that you don't believe in the Second Amendment either?

I mean, you already cheered when they wiped their ass with the 4th, the 5th, and the 14th...I guess 2A is free game for you bootlicking cucks now too?

he brought a gun to an armed police presence. he interfered with their procedures, he fought with them to the extent he got pepper sprayed, then continued to resist while they went to the ground. found one gun on him, yelled gun, and he's still thrashing around. maybe one of them saw or thought they saw him reach, maybe they got caught up in the chaos and straight up murdered him and need to answer for it lawfully. but he played a part in his demise by being a dumb fuck. you have a legal right to carry like you have a legal right to free speech but yell fire in a crowded building and you can answer for it. discretion matters and his decision put him at risk of getting shot.

[DavidAaronGarcia]

Originally Posted by Necrotic Bowel ↗

He probably had a weapon or tried to grab someone else’s.

Might actually want to watch the videos he did have a gun but he never reached for it or try to get it a ice agent actor to one of the videos you can see on here took the weapon from him and disarmed him at that point another ice agent piggy Pig shot him four to five times then put a couple more rounds in his head to make sure he was dead then what it appear to be getting ready to put handcuffs on him I'm not against cop person but anybody that's a criminal that's for an innocent lives at risk no matter sex offender or a murderer or even a officer they're all the same in my eyes if you're doing stuff like what we saw in that video that's not acceptable in this country we are talking about Iran doing these things and yet it's happening in our own country this stuff we used to see stuff like this back in the day normally we're talking about race Wars with between white folks and black folks not in this modern time it doesn't mean there's a isolated incident in because we get those but this is actually a major instant it's been happening multiple times

[Mr.NoCredit]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Or, you know, just stop posting blatant and misleading lies that have been disproven by dozens of sources?

Reeeeeeally shouldn’t be that big of an ask. But sure, you do you.

His parents were interviewed and they live in Denver. I spoke to “my source” and I posted incorrect information. I have since edited my post stating edited for incorrect information. I sincerely apologize.

I’m also getting up there in years. 66 this year being born in 1960. I grew up under a military father who served for 29 years before he retired. I also grew up with a healthy respect for law enforcement although, in my opinion, they’re as much criminals as a drug dealers in some cases worse than. Not all but some are for sure. Regardless of my feelings I would never follow them around nor get in their way of or during a time when they’re enforcing the law. It’s simply stupid to do so. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. Anyone who confronts any law enforcement officer while carrying is even a bigger fool. Sad the world had descended into chaos like it has. I have no control nor would I want that level of responsibility. Not my job. Good luck if you choose to go back to Minneapolis. I wouldn’t go there if you paid me for any reason especially with the climate there. To me, that’s just asking for trouble.

[Just_Visiting]

Someone yelled gun, soon-to-be-dead guy reached to his back - pew-pew, pew. Shooters didn't know another agent had disarmed him of one gun, let alone another possible second weapon. No charges will be filed.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by Mr.NoCredit ↗

His parents were interviewed and they live in Denver. I spoke to “my source” and I posted incorrect information. I have since edited my post stating edited for incorrect information. I sincerely apologize.

I’m also getting up there in years. 66 this year being born in 1960. I grew up under a military father who served for 29 years before he retired. I also grew up with a healthy respect for law enforcement although, in my opinion, they’re as much criminals as a drug dealers in some cases worse than. Not all but some are for sure. Regardless of my feelings I would never follow them around nor get in their way of or during a time when they’re enforcing the law. It’s simply stupid to do so. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. Anyone who confronts any law enforcement officer while carrying is even a bigger fool. Sad the world had descended into chaos like it has. I have no control nor would I want that level of responsibility. Not my job. Good luck if you choose to go back to Minneapolis. I wouldn’t go there if you paid me for any reason especially with the climate there. To me, that’s just asking for trouble.

Look, I am 56 years old. My father is a retired cop. His brother is a retired cop. My maternal grandfather was a police chief in two different towns when my mother and then I were growing up. My brother is a firefighter. All of them served. My grandfather was 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division. He was awarded a purple heart at Peleliu, if you know anything about Pacific Theater history. He still managed to help raise me and work as a police chief with one ear and a pint-a-day Smirnoff habit.

I was raised by police and veterans, man. Several of whom saw some real shit. And I took a lot away from all of them, good and bad. I was raised to respect what they represented.

But the one lesson that was drilled into me early and never left was the question that the entire world spent decades asking about Nazi Germany.
"How did so many millions of people just let it happen?"

"One fucking day at a time, until it had already happened. And then it was too late for all of them." was the answer my grandfather gave me when I asked him at his kitchen table after mowing his quarter acre yard on a Saturday morning somewhere around 1981.

At this point, I believe with every fiber of my being that it takes a willful collaborator or a complete simpleton to fail to see the multitudes of parallels that are stacking up one fucking day at a time.

I see them. Tens of millions of others see them. Hopefully enough of the 190 million eligible voters who did NOT vote for Trump will see them as well and find the courage of conviction that these protestors have when they go out in -20 degree weather and risk their own lives or freedom to film our own Gestapo shredding the Constitution because if they do not observe and record it, no one fucking will.

And I still believe, if only a little, that making a record of this administration's crimes matters. It matters now and it will matter far more when enough people have awakened and the trials begin, so as to insure that we can remind ourselves about that lesson that, apparently, far too many have forgotten.

I am truly sorry that you are fine with blatant, demonstrable, clear violations of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments on a daily basis.

Or if you are not fine, that you lack the courage or conviction to stand up and call a Wrong a Wrong. Even at personal peril. Because the fact that to say these things, to film these things, now involves clear personal peril should REALLY be a wakeup call.

But I believe in those who are making this stand. I believe that they do it because they see the parallels and they remember that same question. That same history lesson that so many of you seem to have forgotten.

The machinery of government is corrupt and weak and vulnerable. The Democrats are weak and corrupt. The Republicans are even weaker and as corrupt. The Supreme Court is largely bought, Congress is cowardly and self-serving, and the President dreams of Ancient Rome and frequently confuses which people or countries he is even talking about in his rambling word salad speeches.

'The government' is broken and will not provide the tools to stop this unfolding nightmare. It cannot be repaired to functionality in time.

It is going to get stopped by tens of millions of people marching, calling a general strike, and committing acts of rebellion, large and small.

To stand out in the cold and name Evil for what it is seems a small ask for one inclined to feel patriotic.

Or even vaguely human.

I am not the raving 'woke librul' many of the dissenters feel that I am, I voted Republican from Bush 1 to Romney. I'd vote them again if the party still existed. I still embrace a great many traditional core Republican values.

But I embrace the values of my father and my grandfather and my family far moreso. The GOP has sold itself to jaded billionaires, greedy thugs, religious zealots, white nationalists, and death cults.

I hate a hell of a lot about the 'woke left.' Little annoys me more most days. But at the end of it all, they aren't the ones kicking in doors on Admin warrants, kidnapping people with no due process and selling them to foreign prison camps, and shooting US citizens in the streets for 'impeding' their sacred duty.

When push comes to shove, I will ALWAYS choose whichever side is further from post-Weimar Germany.

So yes, I'll be in Minneapolis. Because I still have a figment of belief that we have half a chance of saving this thing before it crosses the Rubicon.

Maybe I'm just fucking stupid like that.

[Vincentsdream]

Its looking like the guy who disarmed him was a retard and said "I got his gun." Instead of "Weapon Secured." And spooked his buddies into murdering the guy who was on his stomach arms out.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by Just_Visiting ↗

Someone yelled gun, soon-to-be-dead guy reached to his back - pew-pew, pew. Shooters didn't know another agent had disarmed him of one gun, let alone another possible second weapon. No charges will be filed.

There's no statute of limitations on Murder.

Minnesota will bring the charges in one year or three and the murderous piggies will have no one to protect them because Dementia Daddy will be in the nuthouse, the hoosegow, or six feet of damp earth. Homeland Barbie and The Dwarven Cow will be at Nuremberg. And the people will remember public murder under color of authority.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

ICE do not wear body cams. They strongly prefer that no visual recordings of their actions exist.

This is also why, unlike ALL other public-facing law enforcement in this country, they hide behind masks, do not wear badges with ID numbers, and do not identify themselves when kidnapping, assaulting, or murdering US citizens.

Not that a body cam reel would help if either your eyesight or your bias is so warped that it ‘looks like they’re wrestling with him to get the gun away.’

He never even fucking drew it.

Speaking of people hiding behind masks.. I just realised that we have not heard anything from antifa for about a year now

Where are they?

[Vedderman]

Faust. JFC.

Dude, if you want to share a video from the scene, fine, do that.

But whatever you posted was some ranting, rambling minor league influencer who is DEEPLY committed to the 'Trump Doctrine.'

There is zero purpose in sharing his opinion here. He's a ranting lunatic, deeply-dyed in the wool MAGAt who refers to anyone using a camera to film ICE as 'rioters', and not even remotely a credible source of news, information, or anything else of substance.

You're a site member here. I DGAF if you want to share your opinion here, that's fine.

But an unattributed cut/paste (I had to go source it myself since you didn't bother) of some fringe MAGA talking-head screaming blatantly white nationalist agendas over and over again is unwelcome here.

Put that shit in the Watercooler or in your fucking septic tank for all I care.

Share a video. Share a REMOTELY credible news story from a journalist. But cut/pasting some bush league Rush Limbaugh cosplayer giving his unsubstantiated opinions about what is happening in a video is pointless. Half the shit on HIS page is just reposted garbage screeds from some coked-up Lebanese podcaster who spends most of HIS time simping for Musk.


Do better. And stop spending your time sniffing around after these dipshit whackos. You're going to rot your fucking brain.

[Mecrupulent]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Speaking of people hiding behind masks.. I just realised that we have not heard anything from antifa for about a year now

Where are they?

The antifa are there my friend, fighting fascism wherever it shows its ugly face, defending basic rights because one cannot conceive that fascism is a good thing in any way, shape or form. They may also be on this forum, keeping track of who's on which side of History as it is being made.
Antifa does not equal woke. It just means keeping our world from falling under the yoke of crazy bastards like Trump, I'm from France (yes, that guy with the glasses ) and may we never have to face the situation you Americans are facing right now, because seen from here it's an absolute horror.