[Rikbikboo]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

They know it is lost forever; the US already told them if they have any significant gains this year then the money stops. Biden might try and stretch that, but after that they only thing they have left (aside from terrorist attacks) is pretending that Russia destroyed the nuclear power plant in the hopes of getting money again. Zelensky his handlers will make that call wether you want it or not

Is this why there is evidence of the Russians mining the power station like they did the dam. I suppose Ukraine. Blew their own dam up too didn’t they. Again. Previous evidence of it being mined by the Russians. The uneducated don’t realise the power and and placement of explosives needed to burst that thing. It would have taken some serious work. Faust. Sometimes mate I try to see your point. But other times you really do spew some bollocks.

I suppose the positive is you’re not being stupid enough again to warrant another ban. Yet,,,,,,,,

[DarthArchon]

I know that Putin is a somewhat logical actor, he's not suicidal. He might have build a system where lying to him about how great his missiles and tanks are is the norm but he knows if he use nuke. He will get nuked, with better, faster, more precise and better delivered nukes.

His last remaining allies would have to turn their back on him. China would have to distance and condemn him as there would be sanction to any country still doing any business with Russia after the use of a nuke.

Nuke is a dead end for him and he knows it. His only potential use without too much consequences. Would be if Ukraine win back so much territory, they would start invade Russian territory, Maybe then using a nuke on his own soil would be somewhat understandable for the international community but even there. He would have lost so much authority getting beat by the poorest country in Europe, i don't even think Putin can survive to this point. Remember that it's not just Putin here. The FSB is an hidden mafia organization who hold the power along side Putin, if they deem him too weak and bad for Russia, they will kill him.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Rikbikboo ↗

The uneducated don’t realise the power and and placement of explosives needed to burst that thing.

https://archive.is/9Py2F

“ The two bridges were targeted with U.S.-supplied M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems — or HIMARS launchers, which have a range of 50 miles — and were quickly rendered impassable.
“There were moments when we turned off their supply lines completely, and they still managed to build crossings,” Kovalchuk said. “They managed to replenish ammunition. … It was very difficult.”
Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages.
The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort. He held off.”

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

https://archive.is/9Py2F

Tucker Carlson misleading facts as usual. He does it all for the views.

In The Washington Post interview from December 2022 which Carlson referenced, Maj. Gen. Andriy Kovalchuk, the initial commander of the Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Kherson region, said he had considered flooding the Dnieper River in November to slow Russian supply lines.

Whether the damage caused by the HIMARS strike may have contributed to the dam's eventual destruction remains to be seen. What is crucial here is that Carlson has left out details from the article.

Furthermore, with Ukrainian forces advancing into Kherson as part of their counteroffensive against Russia, at face value, it makes less sense to destroy something that would cut off power, deprive clean water, and slow progress Ukraine had been making within that territory.

In addition, Ukraine now faces having to respond to an additional crisis caused by the flooding, both in preserving civilian lives in the region and, in the longer term, rebuilding the damage caused by the breach.

Carlson does not state that the test strike was intended to raise the water levels of the Dnieper River in order to cut off Russian supply lines that were bisected by it. The strike was said to have made three holes in one of the dam's floodgates but was not, according to the Post's article, intended to destroy the dam.

While a Ukrainian general told The Washington Post that the strike was a success, no further strikes were reportedly carried out. The article does not state that the intention was to blow up the dam.

Carlson does mention that the flooding has indeed led to widespread damage of the Russian-controlled Crimean regions surrounding it, which could also hamper Russia's military resources nearby.

However, that context is then used to introduce the claim that the Ukrainian government had considered destroying the dam, using the Washington Post article as his only source beyond that.

Carlson's conclusion that the Ukrainian government had considered destroying the dam misrepresents what was actually written. It might also fail to consider the perceived counterintuitive nature of such a move at a potentially pivotal moment in the conflict.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Tucker Carlson misleading facts as usual. He does it all for the views.

In The Washington Post interview from December 2022 which Carlson referenced, Maj. Gen. Andriy Kovalchuk, the initial commander of the Ukrainian counteroffensive in the Kherson region, said he had considered flooding the Dnieper River in November to slow Russian supply lines.

Whether the damage caused by the HIMARS strike may have contributed to the dam's eventual destruction remains to be seen. What is crucial here is that Carlson has left out details from the article.

Furthermore, with Ukrainian forces advancing into Kherson as part of their counteroffensive against Russia, at face value, it makes less sense to destroy something that would cut off power, deprive clean water, and slow progress Ukraine had been making within that territory.

In addition, Ukraine now faces having to respond to an additional crisis caused by the flooding, both in preserving civilian lives in the region and, in the longer term, rebuilding the damage caused by the breach.

Carlson does not state that the test strike was intended to raise the water levels of the Dnieper River in order to cut off Russian supply lines that were bisected by it. The strike was said to have made three holes in one of the dam's floodgates but was not, according to the Post's article, intended to destroy the dam.

While a Ukrainian general told The Washington Post that the strike was a success, no further strikes were reportedly carried out. The article does not state that the intention was to blow up the dam.

Carlson does mention that the flooding has indeed led to widespread damage of the Russian-controlled Crimean regions surrounding it, which could also hamper Russia's military resources nearby.

However, that context is then used to introduce the claim that the Ukrainian government had considered destroying the dam, using the Washington Post article as his only source beyond that.

Carlson's conclusion that the Ukrainian government had considered destroying the dam misrepresents what was actually written. It might also fail to consider the perceived counterintuitive nature of such a move at a potentially pivotal moment in the conflict.

What does Tucker Carlson have to do with the Washington post?

[Faust]

One of the oldest neo-N@zis in Ukraine, the head of the "Brotherhood" Dmitry Korchinsky said that the AFU needs to strike at the Zaporozhye NPP:

"Yes, it's a risk. Many people will suffer, but even more people will suffer if Russian administrations and nuclear facilities are not attacked now. It is necessary to strike, there is no other way."

[Faust]

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1676284650237337602

Lol ‘the roof’ because that is the only place ukraine can strike. A single drone photo would be world news. Also look at the comments

[Faust]

Lord bebo said it correct:

1) Ukraine wants NATO intervention
2) Russia does not want NATO intervention
3) US/NATO drew a line at the nuclear power plant

- Russia’s benefit is just being evil
- Ukraine’s benefit is help from NATO, the thing they desire since the start

[duntez]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1676284650237337602

Lol ‘the roof’ because that is the only place ukraine can strike. A single drone photo would be world news. Also look at the comments

Comments are interesting indeed

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

Comments are interesting indeed

Say what you want about Musk/Tesla/spaceX but before he owned the platform nearly all those people would be banned or at least have their comments removed.