[Faust]

Zelensky said in Spain they have to show results before July 11th so… Himars delivery onto the plant? Ukraine and the Biden party could blame Russia at which point they might as well fire a tactical nuke or 2. So let’s hope Ukraine cannot attack the plant. Surely somebody operating the long range missiles might object to it?

[kellyhound]

The Russian invaders have begun to gradually leave the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP), and some ZNPP employees have also been instructed to leave the plant by 5 July, the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) reports.

Quote: "The latest data indicates that the occupying forces are gradually leaving the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Three employees of Rosatom [a Russian state corporation specialising in nuclear energy], who led the Russians' actions, were among the first to leave the facility.

Ukrainian employees who have signed a contract with Rosatom have also been advised to evacuate. Under the instructions received, they should leave by 5 July."

Details: The Russians advise leaving for temporarily occupied Crimea.

Intelligence reports that the head of the legal department, Mantsurova, chief inspector Shtatsky and deputy head of the station for support, Gubarev, have already left for the peninsula.

The DIU also emphasises that the number of military patrols at the ZNPP and in the satellite city of Enerhodar is gradually decreasing.

Meanwhile, intelligence reports that the Russian occupiers have instructed the personnel who remain at the station to "blame Ukraine in the event of any emergency".

Background:
On 20 June, Kyrylo Budanov, Chief of Ukrainian Defence Intelligence, said that the threat of an explosion at the (ZNPP) was real since the occupiers had additionally mined the cooling unit.

On 22 June, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that Russia was probably preparing to commit a terrorist attack at the ZNPP, which could lead to a radiation leak.

Later, Budanov said he was convinced that the Russians’ plan to blow up the (ZNPP) had been fully prepared and approved, and the threat had never been as great as it is now.

On 25 June, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that the Russians have prepared and approved the scenario of a terrorist attack on the (ZNPP), and the world’s attention is insufficient.

The United States said that it does not currently consider the threat of Russian occupiers blowing up the ZNPP "imminent", despite Ukraine's recent reports that Russia is preparing a terrorist attack.

However, the Ukrainian authorities have nevertheless decided to conduct large-scale special civil defence training in Zaporizhzhia Oblast in case of a possible accident at the ZNPP.

The ZNPP has six reactors, all of which are currently shut down, none of which are operating in power generation mode. The Russians have deployed military equipment, weapons and ammunition in reactors #1, 2, 4. At the same time, reactor #5 is in hot shutdown mode, while reactors #1-4 and 6 are in cold shutdown mode.

Cold shutdowns minimize the risk of a disaster occurring in the event of a missile strike or other emergency situation. In this mode, the temperature of the first circuit of the reactor decreases from 275 to 70 degrees Celsius.

Reactors in cold shutdown, in case of a complete power outage, have much more time before a meltdown occurs in their active zone. In a hot shutdown, reactors are likewise not generating power, but can be quickly flipped to active operation. When operating, fuel temperature is high, the pressure in the reactor itself is high, and it must be constantly cooled.

Ukraine’s State Inspectorate for Nuclear Regulation has already twice ordered Reactor #5 to be placed in cold shutdown mode, but Russian occupation forces at the plant have ignored these commands.

Each reactor is covered with a hermetic shell-dome which is designed prevent the release of hazardous substances to the outside in case of a reactor accident. This sort of safety technology was not available at the Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant – meaning that the ZNPP is better secured that Chornobyl. The height of the containment dome is about 60 meters, while the walls are 1.2 m thick.

The shell can be destroyed either via a direct hit with a high-power projectile, or a blast from the reactor itself.

However, it is very difficult to blow up reactors or nuclear fuel storage facilities at the power plant, even if they are mined, Ukrainian scientist Olena Pareniuk, senior researcher at the Institute for Safety Problems of Nuclear Power Plants of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, Candidate of Biological Sciences told Radio NV in an interview.

“In order to blow up one or the other, a lot of explosives are needed, an extremely large amount, because, for example, the containments that protect the reactors can withstand five atmospheres,” she said.

“That is, these are very dense and thick concrete buildings, several meters thick. Theoretically, they should withstand certain emergency situations in the reactor. Therefore, it’s very difficult to blow up the reactor directly. This doesn’t mean that it’s impossible.

If we assume that the Russian invaders will carry out a terrorist attack at ZNPP, which may result in the release of radiation, two conditional contamination zones may be formed:

30 km – 146 settlements (538,000 people), including Enerhodar, Velyka Bilozerka, Marhanets, and Nikopol.
100 km – 736 settlements (2.7 million people), including Melitopol and Zaporizhzhya.

However, it should be taken into account that the radiation cloud after a hypothetical accident will not spread evenly centrifugally from the explosion site. The spread of harmful substances depends on the direction of wind, after this theoretical attack.

Therefore, on the map below, the colored area also shows the conditional boundaries of radioactive contamination one day after a hypothetical accident at ZNPP with a north easterly wind (data and calculations from NV sources).

According to this data, the following settlements may be included in the immediate evacuation zone on the way of radioactive contamination spread:

the town of Enerhodar; the Vasylkivka district of Zaporizhzhya Oblast; the Bashtanka district of Mykolayiv Oblast; the Beryslav and Kakhovka districts of Kherson Oblast.

[Chacotay]

I don't think there's a *plan* to use nukes, but that's not to say they won't get used. If Putin is desperate enough, I think he could turn to them. Honestly, if Prigozhin was successful in his military "advance" inside Russia, we may have seen nukes used in a last-ditch effort to retain power (somehow). Alternatively, if Ukraine is successful in liberating Crimea (which is seeming more and more likely since the dam breach, bridge collapses, and advances on the Southern front) then Russia may choose to deploy nukes to hide their failures in conventional warfare.

Like I said, I don't think they are part of his strategy, but I do think they're an option under the right circumstances. And I don't think things are going to left for Putin.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

The Russian invaders have begun to gradually leave the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP), and some ZNPP employees have also been instructed to leave the plant by 5 July, the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) reports.

Quote: "The latest data indicates that the occupying forces are gradually leaving the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Three employees of Rosatom [a Russian state corporation specialising in nuclear energy], who led the Russians' actions, were among the first to leave the facility.

Ukrainian employees who have signed a contract with Rosatom have also been advised to evacuate. Under the instructions received, they should leave by 5 July."

Details: The Russians advise leaving for temporarily occupied Crimea.

Intelligence reports that the head of the legal department, Mantsurova, chief inspector Shtatsky and deputy head of the station for support, Gubarev, have already left for the peninsula.

The DIU also emphasises that the number of military patrols at the ZNPP and in the satellite city of Enerhodar is gradually decreasing.

Meanwhile, intelligence reports that the Russian occupiers have instructed the personnel who remain at the station to "blame Ukraine in the event of any emergency".

Background:
On 20 June, Kyrylo Budanov, Chief of Ukrainian Defence Intelligence, said that the threat of an explosion at the (ZNPP) was real since the occupiers had additionally mined the cooling unit.

On 22 June, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that Russia was probably preparing to commit a terrorist attack at the ZNPP, which could lead to a radiation leak.

Later, Budanov said he was convinced that the Russians’ plan to blow up the (ZNPP) had been fully prepared and approved, and the threat had never been as great as it is now.

On 25 June, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that the Russians have prepared and approved the scenario of a terrorist attack on the (ZNPP), and the world’s attention is insufficient.

The United States said that it does not currently consider the threat of Russian occupiers blowing up the ZNPP "imminent", despite Ukraine's recent reports that Russia is preparing a terrorist attack.

However, the Ukrainian authorities have nevertheless decided to conduct large-scale special civil defence training in Zaporizhzhia Oblast in case of a possible accident at the ZNPP.

The ZNPP has six reactors, all of which are currently shut down, none of which are operating in power generation mode. The Russians have deployed military equipment, weapons and ammunition in reactors #1, 2, 4. At the same time, reactor #5 is in hot shutdown mode, while reactors #1-4 and 6 are in cold shutdown mode.

Cold shutdowns minimize the risk of a disaster occurring in the event of a missile strike or other emergency situation. In this mode, the temperature of the first circuit of the reactor decreases from 275 to 70 degrees Celsius.

Reactors in cold shutdown, in case of a complete power outage, have much more time before a meltdown occurs in their active zone. In a hot shutdown, reactors are likewise not generating power, but can be quickly flipped to active operation. When operating, fuel temperature is high, the pressure in the reactor itself is high, and it must be constantly cooled.

Ukraine’s State Inspectorate for Nuclear Regulation has already twice ordered Reactor #5 to be placed in cold shutdown mode, but Russian occupation forces at the plant have ignored these commands.

Each reactor is covered with a hermetic shell-dome which is designed prevent the release of hazardous substances to the outside in case of a reactor accident. This sort of safety technology was not available at the Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant – meaning that the ZNPP is better secured that Chornobyl. The height of the containment dome is about 60 meters, while the walls are 1.2 m thick.

The shell can be destroyed either via a direct hit with a high-power projectile, or a blast from the reactor itself.

However, it is very difficult to blow up reactors or nuclear fuel storage facilities at the power plant, even if they are mined, Ukrainian scientist Olena Pareniuk, senior researcher at the Institute for Safety Problems of Nuclear Power Plants of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, Candidate of Biological Sciences told Radio NV in an interview.

“In order to blow up one or the other, a lot of explosives are needed, an extremely large amount, because, for example, the containments that protect the reactors can withstand five atmospheres,” she said.

“That is, these are very dense and thick concrete buildings, several meters thick. Theoretically, they should withstand certain emergency situations in the reactor. Therefore, it’s very difficult to blow up the reactor directly. This doesn’t mean that it’s impossible.

If we assume that the Russian invaders will carry out a terrorist attack at ZNPP, which may result in the release of radiation, two conditional contamination zones may be formed:

30 km – 146 settlements (538,000 people), including Enerhodar, Velyka Bilozerka, Marhanets, and Nikopol.
100 km – 736 settlements (2.7 million people), including Melitopol and Zaporizhzhya.

However, it should be taken into account that the radiation cloud after a hypothetical accident will not spread evenly centrifugally from the explosion site. The spread of harmful substances depends on the direction of wind, after this theoretical attack.

Therefore, on the map below, the colored area also shows the conditional boundaries of radioactive contamination one day after a hypothetical accident at ZNPP with a north easterly wind (data and calculations from NV sources).

According to this data, the following settlements may be included in the immediate evacuation zone on the way of radioactive contamination spread:

the town of Enerhodar; the Vasylkivka district of Zaporizhzhya Oblast; the Bashtanka district of Mykolayiv Oblast; the Beryslav and Kakhovka districts of Kherson Oblast.

according to the UN International Atomic Energy Agency, who have actual people stationed there, this is fake: no people evacuating nor explosives being planted.

Maybe a HIMARS strike or two against the spent fuel storage at the facility before the US disables the firing controls?

The recent US law of NATO involvement in case of nuclear sabotage is an open invitation to a false flag attack.

But that level of Ukrainian escalation will warrant tactical nuclear strikes (lowest possible yield) against Ukrainian troops.

[Faust]

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/statu...09498117586945

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

according to the UN International Atomic Energy Agency, who have actual people stationed there, this is fake: no people evacuating nor explosives being planted.

Director General Grossi said last week, no mines were observed at the site during his visit to the ZNPP on 15 June, his third in less than ten months.

However, the IAEA has been aware of a previous placement of mines outside the plant perimeter, which the Agency has reported about earlier, and also at particular places inside.

The five basic principles for the protection of Europe’s largest nuclear power plant (NPP) that Director General Grossi established on 30 May at the United Nations Security Council state that there should be no attack from or against the plant and that it should not be used as storage or a base for heavy weapons – multiple rocket launchers, artillery systems and munitions, and tanks.

“We need full access to be able to confirm that the five principles have not been violated, and we will continue to request the necessary access to all those areas essential to nuclear safety and security so that we can deliver on this mandate, including that the plant should not be used as storage or base for heavy weapons and munitions,” Director General Grossi said.

They still need additional access to carry out further such checks at the site, Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi said today.

The team of IAEA experts were today able to inspect parts of the plant’s cooling system, including some sections of the perimeter of the large cooling pond and the isolation gate of the discharge channel of the nearby Zaporizhzhya Thermal Power Plant (ZTPP).

Both this channel and the cooling pond hold reserves of water that remain available for use by the ZNPP despite the destruction of the downstream Kakhovka dam more than three weeks ago.

The IAEA experts have also been conducting regular walkdowns across the six reactor units and other areas around the site. Access to further areas is still expected, including parts of the turbine halls and some parts of the cooling system.

The website of Energoatom also claims that Russian forces are using the turbine hall of the plant to store their military equipment.

The Ukrainian company states that the Russian military has stored “at least 14 units of heavy military equipment with ammunition, weapons and explosives” in Zaporizhzhia’s Unit 1.

У своїй заяві начальник військ радіаційного, хімічного та біологічного захисту зс рф генерал-майор валерій васильєв, котрий зараз командує гарнізоном ЗАЕС, сказав, що «тут будет или русская земля, или выжженная пустыня».

«Как вы знаете, мы заминировали все важные объекты Запорожской атомной станции. И мы не скрываем этого от врага. Мы их предупредили. Враг знает, что станция будет или русской, или ничьей. Мы готовы к последствиям этого шага. И вы, воины-освободители, должны понимать, что другого пути у нас нет. И если будет самый жесткий приказ – мы должны выполнить его с честью!» – сказав він своїм солдатам.

Раніше представник пресслужби ГУР МО Андрій Юсов повідомив, що відомство має підтверджену інформацію щодо мінування енергоблоків ЗАЕС російськими військами.

The Russians do not hide their plans and are already openly blackmailing the whole world, declaring that they are demining the Zaporizhzhia NPP and that they are ready to blow it up.

In his statement, the head of the forces of radiation, chemical and biological protection of the Soviet Union, Major General Valeriy Vasiliev, who now commands the garrison of the ZNPP, said that "there will be either Russian land or a scorched desert."

"As you know, we mined all the important objects of the Zaporozhye nuclear plant. And we do not hide this from the enemy. We warned them. The enemy knows that the station will be either Russian or nobody's.

We are ready for the consequences of this step. And you, liberation warriors, must understand that we have no second way. And if there is the most severe order - we must fulfill it with honor!" he told his soldiers.

Earlier, the representative of the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications Andriy Yusov reported that the department has confirmed information regarding the mining of power units of the ZNPP by Russian troops.


video from 2022 shows Russia military vehicles parked inside a turbine hall, connected to a nuclear reactor at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.

The Russian military trucks were spotted again in footage from the IAEA inspection in 2022. It is not known what is inside the vehicles.
Video of the "inspection": walk around with soldiers nearby
It's not they can walk in at any time but it's on invite so enough time to hide mines etc.

[Faust]

Oh really, some Russian general said they would blow it up?
Let me guess, intercepted commander phone call to his mom? Or a post on telegram?

If any such statements had actually been made it would be on CNN for days

[Faust]

“ However, the IAEA has been aware of a previous placement of mines outside the plant perimeter, which the Agency has reported about earlier, and also at particular places inside.”

No actual source. As it would be front page world news if that had happened

[K-Blast]

Faust: "that's baseless bullshit!"
Also Faust: posts baseless bullshit as absolute, irrefutable fact all of the time

[Faust]

Originally Posted by K-Blast ↗

Faust: "that's baseless bullshit!"
Also Faust: posts baseless bullshit as absolute, irrefutable fact all of the time

No need for insults; destiny arrives all the same