[daddysdolly]

Originally Posted by JumboSausage ↗

The problem is you're a gun obsessed nation. A random nutter here in the UK would find it almost impossible to get his hands on one assault riffle let alone 10. Owning a gun in the US is like owning a fishing rod in the UK. Let that sink in.

Unfortunately you have no clue what the 2nd Amendment is really for. The irony is adorable.

[biomech]

Are there any actual pics in this thread or is just the vids on pg 1?

Just read 16pgs of arguing and cbf scouring through any more, so can someone save me the hassle & link to the post with the pics?

[dandroid]

there's another thread with pictures in the pictures section. ..

[Kerryro]

Originally Posted by dandroid ↗

there's another thread with pictures in the pictures section. ..

And where the heck is that? Link us

[Bletch]

Originally Posted by Kerryro ↗

And where the heck is that? Link us

Use the search function damnit...

[kornrox593]

Originally Posted by bcoy1para25 ↗

at concerts like at the manchester bombing in an emergency they turn the lights on for better visibility on exiting, why they turned them on is because they finally figured they were getting shot at so someone clearly said turn them off to make it harder for the shooter to target people.

Lighting designer/director here with 4 years touring experience on multiple large tours and festivals like this. A bit late to the game here, but thought I'd chime in. This whole event sparked a really good and open conversation as to what to do as an LD if you ever find yourself in this spot. Everyone wants to think up some tactical response like aiming your movers at the shooter or something, but as unrealistic as it might sound, going full blinders, (like what this person did) is generally regarded as the best thing to do. In a mass shooting situation, the shooter is not taking precise shots, so lack of light is really not that big of a concern for them. People being able to see where they are going is the most important thing. The most dangerous thing to do in these situations is stay put and personally I'd fear that darkness could give people a false sense of security even if they may still be in harms way. I doubt very highly turning the lights off was an intentional choice in this situation. The area still isn't secured, it's still pretty chaotic, and I doubt the LD's first concern was to go secure his desk at FOH. There are a number of things that could've caused them to go off. Cable getting pulled, power to desk getting pulled, generator power pulled, etc etc. Also keep in mind that the second you do anything besides just turning lights up, you're opening yourself up for HUGE legal risk. If an LD really is turning things on and off in an attempt to respond tactically, the personal and professional liability is immense.

[Billyjoebob]

Damn. Stupid they all just sat there in the open. That’s what happens if you have a large gathering of people with 20iq and lower

[xm15e2s]

If you look close you can see a cup being hit by a ricochet

[Teon]

[U.B.Hotch]

Originally Posted by JumboSausage ↗

So this guy can legally own 10 assault rifles. That's not silly is it.

I have 23! Four have Slide Fires (bump stocks).

TEXAS BITCHES!