[crismora12]

Somethings off about all this.

[dandroid]

I really think that, as far as the gun debate goes, this mostly brings into question the kind and amount of weaponry one can acquire. For those who fall on the side of being against reforms, what are your thoughts?

[hanoverfist34]

I wish he had shot those fucks that stood up with their arms wide instead of the people trying to hide.

[dandroid]

eh, their adrenalin mixed with probable inebriation accounts for it. bloody stupid though

[DavidNDC]

Originally Posted by Musley81 ↗

1) How the hell did he get that many riffles into his room with 0 suspicion?

When was the last time you had your bags searched when checking into a hotel?

As a photographer, I'm often taking as many as 10 locked Storm Cases into my hotel suite without even a 2nd look. Hell, I've taken them into NYC's Citi Field for a Mets/Yankees game, into the Barclays Center for a Rangers/Islanders game and many other venues throughout the country with absolutely zero concern from security.

Chances are he didn't even haul the guns up to his room, I wouldn't be at all surprised if a bell hop did it for him as they have done for my bags numerous times at that very hotel.

[-me-]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

Well aren't you high on yourself.

You have an opinion, you're not the end all tell all.

99% of the time when someone pulls out a gun and starts shooting there are no "trained officers" there. Usually the first few minutes, maybe even several minutes, you're on your own.

The instance I'm talking about happened i believe at a lawn mower factory in Kansas. It's not conjecture it's easily found online.

You're obviously a person who believes your safety, your families safety is a trained officers responsibility. I don't, i feel its my responsibility. I carry a weapon almost everywhere i go. Unless where I'm going doesn't permit weapons. I follow the law.

I think is idiotic to say having some armed citizens isn't going to save lives in the event of a shooter situation.

Just because it's rare. Lets look at why it's rare. Possibly it's rare because a shooter picks targets that are likely not armed. Or they hide 30 floors up in the air. Movie theater. No guns allowed. Church, no guns allowed. School, no guns allowed. Workplace, no guns allowed.

Most mass shootings take place in places where citizens aren't allowed to carry. So that's why it's rare for a citizen to intercept a shooter.

"no guns allowed"...because people don't want to get shot by idiots taking the law into their own hands. Are you suggesting that teachers be armed, or the clergy? or a cinema usher?...should they start blasting away in the darkness, just because an assailant does? Seriously - it can't work and it's proven NOT to work...even in locations where people DO have guns!

No one is charging in to save the day like John McClane in Die Hard. That is fantasy! This latest incident, 32 floors up is a prime example!

...and why should those people who don't want guns in their "gun-free-zones" have to suffer just because 22% of people want pop-pops?

But hey, you keep killing yourselves. Keep telling yourselves that more guns is better and that god's magic will sort it...But whatever you do, just keep it in the US - it's one potential import we do not want here.

[-me-]

Originally Posted by dandroid ↗

I really think that, as far as the gun debate goes, this mostly brings into question the kind and amount of weaponry one can acquire. For those who fall on the side of being against reforms, what are your thoughts?

A good start might be those bump-stock modification loopholes that seem to have been ignored. I bet that is the one thing they will sort out...in this particular case it seems to be the "automatic" emulation that has scaled the casualty count up to break the record.

[demonspeedng22]

Originally Posted by Musley81 ↗

1) How the hell did he get that many riffles into his room with 0 suspicion?

He brought them in suitcases. I believe I heard he had 10 suitcases in his room

[Bletch]

Originally Posted by crismora12 ↗

Somethings off about all this.

Yes....you.

[Hellsinki]

Originally Posted by StealthGrayRS ↗

I forgot to add that Europe has waaaay more terror attacks in spite of their tough gun laws. The idea that gun control will do anything but hinder law abiding citizens from exercising their constitutional protected right is flawed logic

"Tough gun laws" in Europe are no related to the rise of Terror Attacks, your "American" narrative is not reality there. Stephen Paddock was not a terrorist. If he had a small gun, or a knife, more of 90% of the people he killed would be still alive to this day.