[DiamondSmiles]

I thought I posted this first with those same pictures and the update.

[icheerthebull]

So allegedly this guy was told that if he left his wife (not the one in the story, the one before) he would not get to see his 4 kids (including one with Down's syndrome) again. So he not only divorced her but left the country and hasn't seen his kids since

[Kanda444]

Originally Posted by CrunchyCripple ↗

Shame on her? How can you condemn someone for not having something they just do not have? You cannot force yourself to love another person if it's just not there. You can fake it, but they always know.

she didnt mention it the whole time she was pregnant though? never once said 'honey, i dont know if i can do this' or 'maybe an abortion would be a good idea'....not even a 'if the baby is handicapped, then i dont want it'?

the mother was an adult....who understood the ramifications of her actions. she obviously cant help not loving the child but the issue with the child wasnt her inability to love a child but her inability to love a handicapped child.

end of the day, you still have a special needs child who's mother didnt love it enough and abandoned it. i dont think a 'good for her for walking away from her responsibilities and abandoning the life she created' is really the proper moral response in this situation, imo.

[Kanda444]

Originally Posted by Pollucy ↗

I think what you guys are forgetting is that not all cultures are accepting of people with disabilities. In many cultures it is believed that all sorts of disabilities are punishments for sins, and if a baby is born with a disability it is considered to be because the parent/s are sinners. Even in non-religous cultures disabilites are often considered something extremely shameful for the entire family and disabled people must be hidden away or even disposed of.

The fact that this mother (maybe) chose to leave her disabled child might not have anything to do with motherly feelings at all, it could be simply because of her culture's view on Downs syndrome.

We should also consider the possibility that fetal tests might not be something that is available (/to just anyone) where this couple lived. Not all countries are as priviliged as others.

cultural norms dont make something more or less moral. it's culturally 'normal' in some islamic countries to marry a six year old like the prophet Mohammad did....are we now supposed to say 'well, you guys arent considering that it's probably the cultural norm' or do we call a spade a spade and say the truth; that its disgusting and immoral....?

[Kanda444]

Originally Posted by diamondsmiles ↗

*Mother Speaks Out: Says Husband Fled to New Zealand With Baby Leo*

February 7, 2015

A mother, accused of leaving her husband because their child was born with Down syndrome, is speaking out.

Doctors told the parents they could keep him or give him to foster care.

His dad, Samuel Forrest, claims his wife divorced him because he wanted to keep their son.

Now, the child's mother, Ruzan Badalyan, is refuting those claims.

She said she never gave her husband an ultimatum.

She says, she simply wanted to move to a different country to raise the boy where he might have a better future.

Badalyan says her husband abandoned her during the hardest decision of her life and took their son to New Zealand.

Forrest told reporters he is open to a possible reunion with his wife.

fuuck, who knows what the truth is.

[invertigo]

I hold extreme scepticism for ANY 'woe is me' story that results in a gofundme account. How many times have high profile stories like this turned out to be scams? Almost all of them -
Dana Moraeles; claimed she didn't receive a tip because she was gay- turned out to be a load of bullshit.
Victoria Wilchers family; claimed they were kicked out of a KFC because Victoria's face was scaring other customers- turned out to be a load of bullshit.
And let's not forget the black waitress who wrote 'none ******' on her own receipt, and the publicly humiliated a patron, because she was pissed she didn't get a big enough tip on a table she waited.
That this couple was so sudden to split, then so quick to reconcile sends up a huge red flag for me.
I don't trust this stuff anymore.

[Kanda444]

Originally Posted by invertigo ↗

I hold extreme scepticism for ANY 'woe is me' story that results in a gofundme account. How many times have high profile stories like this turned out to be scams? Almost all of them -
Dana Moraeles; claimed she didn't receive a tip because she was gay- turned out to be a load of bullshit.
Victoria Wilchers family; claimed they were kicked out of a KFC because Victoria's face was scaring other customers- turned out to be a load of bullshit.
And let's not forget the black waitress who wrote 'none ******' on her own receipt, and the publicly humiliated a patron, because she was pissed she didn't get a big enough tip on a table she waited.
That this couple was so sudden to split, then so quick to reconcile sends up a huge red flag for me.
I don't trust this stuff anymore.

finally, a rational person walks in and lays down some logic.

[commondenom]

Originally Posted by Kelseecat65 ↗

Forget the special needs, who the fuck would bring a baby into the world knowing they have no reliable income. Total stupidity.

many many MANY black people...and a whole bunch of not black people too

[Nite]

Originally Posted by commondenom ↗

many many MANY black people...and a whole bunch of not black people too

So you're telling me that during the Great Depression of the 1930's not ONE single child was conceived or born?
Duly noted.Must go down to my local Births,Deaths and Marriages centre and have the Birth certificate of four of my Uncles and my Aunties annulled .
They were all obviously born at least ten years later.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by Desensitisation ↗

In the end, she did the right thing for all involved. The child will be loved by the father. The father will love the child. If the mother has no love for the child, best not to be around at all.

I agree the child hopefully will be better off without that women. But don't agree she did the right thing. From my understanding what she did was sign a paper that said kill my baby.
But it all seems fishy.