[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Meowlacy ↗

This didn't bold.

Do you really think that it is a requirement to be in public office you have to be a Christian? Like a qualification or was that hyperbole?

Yes, for all intents and purposes, in the US, its mandatory.
There have been no senators or presidents that have not claimed to be Christian. Ever.
It is currently unthinkable for a non-atheist to claim public office in any significant role. Yes, you can be an atheist and take office, but you must claim(lie) to be a Christian.

Humm? Great. Calling out Muslims' bullshit for being primitive terrorists isn't persecution either. It's just reality. Right?

Yes...thats what i said.
Which part of it was too complicated?
Muslims believe the same shit Christians believe. Its literally the same cult. It's just the cult leader that is different.
I will give you a piece of good avice...and listen to it. Go read the the 3 books of the main abrahamic cults. Then comment about which of them is more stupid and which of them is persecuted.
Right now, you seem silly, without having read any of the cult books you seem to be part of.

[daveywavey10]

Originally Posted by bag1980 ↗

Bro why are you looking for love from politicians? Are you that lonely , your looking for love in all the wrong places lol , I could give a rats fucking cock if politicians care about me , I care if they love this country and Trump definitely loves America his policies proved that ,that’s all that matters to me , tell me answering truthfully ,was the country better off under trump or Biden ? Give me the truth , no emotions ,just the truth , it’s not even close bro , Biden is single handily destroying the country on purpose, democrats are evil and they hate this country, republicans are trying to save it so that’s the side I’m on , we were energy independent under trump , biden destroyed that and now we are counting on our enemies who hate us for energy not to mention costing thousands of good paying American jobs ,it’s just so sad and pathetic, again Trump doesn’t have to love me , he just has to love the country and that’s all that matters to me , we are living through history right now , Biden Is the worst president in American history by far ,not even a close second and he’s not just incompetent ,but 100% incapable, our enemies all know it and are lining up to take a piece of his worthless shit stained underwear ass and you know it’s the truth , imagine a party telling people there are more than 2 genders lol and the mentality ill that actually believe that , wow just wow , come on man wake up

You can’t talk to people that are stupid enough to be fooled by the likes of Biden

[Meowlacy]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Yes, for all intents and purposes, in the US, its mandatory.
There have been no senators or presidents that have not claimed to be Christian. Ever.
It is currently unthinkable for a non-atheist to claim public office in any significant role. Yes, you can be an atheist and take office, but you must claim(lie) to be a Christian.

[B]Really? What about the Jewish and the other vast religions? This is fundamentally not true. Not all "mandatory". So Ihan Omar a congrass women who wears a head dress is pretending to be Christian? Lol. You have no idea how US politics work. /B]



Yes...thats what i said.
Which part of it was too complicated?
Muslims believe the same shit Christians believe. Its literally the same cult. It's just the cult leader that is different.
I will give you a piece of good avice...and listen to it. Go read the the 3 books of the main abrahamic cults. Then comment about which of them is more stupid and which of them is persecuted.
Right now, you seem silly, without having read any of the cult books you seem to be part of.

How do you know what i read and have not read? Lol. You are assuming im christian too. How predictable. Thats fine, take isdue with any religion you wish. However to not asingn sterotyoes or discrimination on one but not the other.
My point was that its easy for you and many others to critizie Christianity, whit men etc. Say the exact same thing about another rel9gion ir race and see what happens.

P.S: All tye trans peoples' chromosomes havent changed yet. Just say'in.

[Meowlacy]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Do i fucking need to be?

Well, you apparently there is no differce to the people you fan boy for.

i was a child once...and i was in saunas together with adults as a child and there was nothing traumatizing about it. I have a bunch of nieces younger than me, and my brother has 2 young girls. None of them give any fucks about seeing ding dongs in showers.
This is entirely fabricated false embarrassment that children don't share. Its a problem only in your mind.

Try going to a family swimming gathering at a pool. With your family. Pull out your dick and walk around your young family members. Think they wont take issue?

You were in a sauna where people had their naked genitals exposed? Children also do not know about sex and sexual abuse either. Do you walk around wirh your cock out in front of your neices?


Nice deflection once again.
Why cant you talk like an adult human, using arguments and reason?

I tried. Several times. I made a point you did not acknowledge, the chromosomal fact and you chose to deflect to something else. /B]

Its a fact that children don't care about nudity.
Being ashamed of your body is a completely learned behavior.

Nobody said anything about shamed of your body. However it would be shameful for a trans person to go into a women's locker room with their genitals exposed.

And yes, especially when they don't claim to be women. How many trans men do you know that have tried to sneak into women's locker rooms?
I'll save you the trouble of coming up with a lie...its zero. None. You have no examples of that ever happening.

cy.

There was a case where a trans student sexually assulted a girl in the bathroom. You don't live here and your media will not report it. It was hidden in the US. Cuz they were worried about the trans student or backlash from discipline it. There was a case at at spa where a trans was in the hot tub in front of women with an exposed erection. In which "she" said was only because her "penis was very large".

Look up Riley Gains. She was an American competitive swimmer that had to share a locker room and forced to compete against a biological man.This person walked around in the locker room with "her" dick out and her team mates corroborated this. .


you obviously either chhose to believe 2hat youvwant or you do not have access to the entirety of the situation in thevstates.

No, its an exact equivalency.
The topic here is children being traumatized by seeing naked men. How is it that they aren not traumatized seeing naked men on a beach, but are traumatized seeing a naked man in a locker room?
(Hint: they arent traumatized. Its all in your head)

Because when you go to a nude beach, it is []UNDERSTOOD AND AKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE WILL BE EXPOSED GENITAILA[/U] THERE. They go to the beach understanding this. You do not go into a woman's locker room and expect to see a cock. Understand? They are being FORCED to see it, there is NO CHOICE. At the beach they chose to go there.

What? Should there be mixed prisons too?


Not if it happens....and no...its not very rare.
It happens all the time, and fathers often allow their children to wander around the locker room naked and alone. Again, only according to severe religious indoctrination, do children give any fucks about naked people. I have literally seen naked 6-10 year old girls in men's shower rooms almost every single time I visit a spa or sauna.

[/B] Perhaps that's an acceptable practice in your country and people can expect to see it. This is not a practice yet in the US.

And in none of the cases have the children cared at all what the naked people do around them.
Why should they?
Really...make an effort and try to actually answer this quesiton.
Why should children be traumatized by seeing someone naked?

WHEN A PERSON GOES INTO A SPACE RESERVED FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS, THEY ARE NOT EXPECTING TO SEE A PENIS AND BALLS. Not to mention the that even a dude with lipstick on still has a dick and most women do not want to undress in front of men. Probably because women are raped or have been raped. By a penis. Do you think it's fair for them to go into a space where a person with a dick has the opportunity to see them naked and they once again, lose their consent by having to see their penis?
Make an honest effort and try to answer this question.

There's your answer.

How is seeing a penis or a vagina different from seeing a belly button or someones butt crack.
(Hint: It isn't.)

You dont fuck people with a belly button. And they are not relative to biological sex. Everyone has one.


Why would i ask argentina?
Its a country reliant on fossil fuel industry and serving a dictator. If im gona ask anyone, im gona ask the neighboring scandinavian countries...where my relatives and friends live. Scandinavian socialist countries are objectively the best places to live. Ive been to those countries, so i can say...personally, that US doesn't come close to the quality of life. In US, if you are rich...you are fine...if not...go fuck yourself. Thats the reality.

Sure. Would you also admit they are mostly white?

Exactly. Any solalist country has usually ended up under a tyrannical government/leader. And no. It's not because it isnt "true socialism" or it was "done wrong". Read some history.

Also, Canada is a party socialist country.
I bet you like all the social benefits of being a Canadian citizen.

It's not "part socialiam" . Its still capitalist. That stupid. It is highly taxed so its not "free". I in some way or another, pay for my services and others too. However with are black face dipshit priminister, its going to shit too.


This sentence makes no sense at all, so i assume you wrote it whilst being triggered in some way.
Im a liberal humanist who follows reaon. Thats it.
Thats reality.
If you don't like reality...thats your problem.

You take issue with biological fact.

I didnt stop arguing about anything.
I just assumed you received your education and stopped living in total denial.
Go read what i wrote few posts ago and try to actually understand it.
Gender is not binary. It just isnt. Its a fact. Its a reality. Either accept reality or live in a delusion.
Gender and sexual preferences are a gradient. Its a fact. Accept it. Adjust to it. Doing anything else is flat out stupid.

Right. But chromosomes are "binary" at birth. Sure. Anyone can say they are whatever they want, however that does not magically change their chromosomes. They will always have what they were born with. Just saying your a "woman" doesnt make you one. No mater what! . It is you that cant see reality.

Seriously. It is anxious in your comtry you are getting a full stream of far left propaganda. So it's not your fault as a person.

[Meowlacy]

Excuse spelling errors

[Budd Dwyer]

So he is still active or retired, rebooted or inactivated?
Damn, American English is so fucking gay no wonder they are eradicating each other sooner than later

[Budd Dwyer]

Also I'd like to know from the Gun thumper 2nd amendment enthusiast that how many gun deaths have been prevented by somebody who carry a gun shooting an active shooter :2gunsfiring_v1



That's a fucking slippery slope right there

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Meowlacy ↗

Well, you apparently there is no difference to the people you fan boy for.

Im a fanboy to no one...and to be honest, I'm not even sure what you were trying to say here.

Try going to a family swimming gathering at a pool. With your family. Pull out your dick and walk around your young family members. Think they won't take issue?

Nope,
Children wouldn't give any fucks about it.
It's the preconditioned adults that have already learned body shame who have a problem with it. I just don't get it. How is it so difficult to understand?
How is seeing genitals/naked people traumatizing to children? Explain. Don't just talk shit. Actually put in some effort and make a case for yourself. Have you ever seen a 4-year-old seeing a naked man/woman who started to scream and ran away, traumatized?
No, you haven't.
I don't even need to wait for your answer. I know you haven't.
In order for it to happen, someone( an adult ) must first precondition and train the child to be afraid of their own body. If you never do that, the child won't give any fucks about nudity.

We are all born naked. This is the natural state that we are used to by default. It takes years of body shaming to learn to exclude some body parts from what's "normal".


There were times when people were "traumatized and shocked" when they saw women's ankles....or in some countries, their faces.

You were in a sauna where people had their naked genitals exposed?

Yes, It's nothing new and again, noone cares.
Being afraid of nakedness is a learned behavior. It is culturally preconditioned. The more severely religious a country is, the more body parts of a woman they are afraid of. Not just genitals. It's not just male genitals either. Most of the religious world is more terrified of female genitals. Its funny, isn't it?
"We were all created in the image of God - but, if I see that image, i'll murder you"

I tried. Several times. I made a point you did not acknowledge, the chromosomal fact and you chose to deflect to something else.

You made no attempt to acknowledge reality. I gave you a list of combinations of sexes, genders, sexual preferences etc that are all real. It's reality. You cant chuck it under the rug. You cant make some nonsensical deflection and assume that reality will go away. It won't.
That's why its called reality - it doesn't go away based on your wishes.

Chromosomes are part of the hardware - gender identity is software. They are different things. You can have male software in female hardware and vice versa. You can have male software in male body but with female pattern recognition and behavior. And so on.
Thats reality. Observable factual reality. You can either ignore reality or accept it. Thats it.

Nobody said anything about shamed of your body. However it would be shameful for a trans person to go into a women's locker room with their genitals exposed.

:D lol,

"nobody said anything about body shame" and you follow that immediately by "it would be shameful for ...."

This is just cringy.
:D You rarely see people blow their own arguments up so quickly and so efficiently.

Being ashamed of your body ( which your genitals are part ) is called body shame. The reason why you don't want trans people in women's ( also men's lockers I assume...right ? ) is because they should be ashamed of their bodies. And the women in the locker room would find their body shameful as well. Great.

How many trans men do you know that have tried to sneak into women's locker rooms?
I'll save you the trouble of coming up with a lie...its zero. None. You have no examples of that ever happening.

Lol, nice deflection again.

I asked, how many trans men do you know...have you seen examples of it happening.
And you come up with "there was this hidden case once...that i found out easily because it wasnt actually hidden, and it was actually part of a right-wing propaganda story"
My point was, that trans-related stuff is so exceedingly rare, that you have never even seen a trans person in your life. Most people havent. Let alon seeing a trans person commit sexual assault.
Before you can start attacking trans people for sexual assaults, you need to show that they actually attack women more than regular good old men.
Yes, perhaps there was somewhere a case where a trans-guy in some way attacked a woman in a locker room.
Now...how many stories have you heard about men attacking women ...anywhere?
Show me statistics that suggest that trans men are attacking women more than other men? If you can't show that, then your fearmongering argument falls apart, because you can just as well get attacked by anyone, anywhere, for any reason.

There was a case at spa where a trans was in the hot tub in front of women with an exposed erection.

And how many men do you think there are, who have had erections in hot tubs with women?
Even I might have had an erection whilst being in a hot tub with women, back in the days when I was younger and erections were not exactly controllable.

This person walked around in the locker room with "her" dick out and her teammates corroborated this.

And we are back to body shaming.
So what. There was a guy who walked around with his dick out. So what. Make a case for it being traumatizing and horrible. How many of her teammates were damaged by this. How many of them had to quit the sport? Also, these examples you bring up are extremely rare cases( you literally had to search for the whole planet to find a few ). For every case you can find of a trans guy sexually assaulting a woman, you can find a thousand where a good old regular guy does the same.

It's not "part socialiam" . Its still capitalist.

Go read what socialism is. You clearly dont know. Then go and read what capitalism is. You also dont know that.
In reality, there are no pure capitalist countries anywhere in the world. There are also no pure socialist countries in the world.
Capitalism/Socialism is not binary. Its also a gradient. You can be 10% socialist, 90% capitalist. Or the other way around....or any combination in between.

Socialism in a nutshell is collective earning/spending, capitalism is individual earning/spending.

The Percentage of taxes collected by the government more or less shows the level of "socialism" in a country. Now, if you don't want to live in a socialist country, then fine. Stop using roads, bridges, railways, harbors, airports, GPS, hospitals, firefighting services etc etc.
Those are all socialist programs. You just don't know what socialism is.
As time goes on, we inevitably must go towards high level of socialism( maybe even 70-80% ) because the end stage of pure capitalism is ultimately slavery/old school feudalism.
And with the advancements of science, technology and artificial intelligence...its only a matter of time when 1 megacorporation owns everything and thanks to advanced machines, don't need humans anymore. We are already close to that point. Mega corporations in the US make their own laws, pay 0 taxes( like amazon ) and can fuck their employes over however they like. Pure capitalism is good in its infancy and mid-stage, where everybody has an equal chance to succeed. As time goes on, capitalism does what capitalism does best. It accumulates capital and power. We go from a country having 1 000 000 family-owned stores to a country with 100 000 small stores....to a country with almost no small businesses anymore. We go from the 70's where anyone with even a little bit of money could by a woodworking lathe and get their business going,...to 2020's where 500 000 dollars is barely enough to have any chance to start a small business. The more time goes on in an unregulated capitalist country, the more people settle into generational classes, from which there is no escape. Land lords will become literal lords as time goes on, just as they were long time ago.

[Meowlacy]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Im a fanboy to no one...and to be honest, I'm not even sure what you were trying to say here.

Then you do know what a fan boy is. Its what you do for American democrats.

Nope,
Children wouldn't give any fucks about it.
It's the preconditioned adults that have already learned body shame who have a problem with it. I just don't get it. How is it so difficult to understand?

So have you just wipped out your dong and balls and walked around your neices? Don't answer, I bet you have not. Please do. Make sure you get a video so we can watch your male family members beat the shit out of you on here.

How is seeing genitals/naked people traumatizing to childrenExplain.
Don't just talk shit.

I did explain but here it goes again. Nudity is permitted at nude beaches etc. When you go to one, you know you will see exposed genitalia. You can expect it and there for CONSENT to it.

When you go into a space where you do not expect to see exposed male Genitalia, you do not consent. There for it is traumatizing. Especially when 1 in 5 women in the US have been RAPED. Often nudity and a penis and balls have been involved. Many little girls have been molested or raped. Again, often involving a penis and balls. Get it?

Actually put in some effort and make a case for yourself. Have you ever seen a 4-year-old seeing a naked man/woman who started to scream and ran away, traumatized?

" As a nurse I work with women and girls who have been raped by men. They 100% unequivocally would be and have been traumatizing by seeing men's dick and balls in a space where there should not be.
No, you haven't.
I don't even need to wait for your answer. I know you haven't.
In order for it to happen, someone( an adult ) must first precondition and train the child to be afraid of their own body. If you never do that, the child won't give any fucks about nudity.

No one except religious zelots who wouldn't even allow their children to go swimming "teach their children to be ashamed of their bodies".(Mostly devout Musliums) You have a poor understanding of modern Chrisianity.

We are all born naked. This is the natural state that we are used to by default. It takes years of body shaming to learn to exclude some body parts from what's "normal".

Yes. But as humans we are sexually arroused by the nakedness of our partners. Especially men. Hense why women dress in scant clothing to attract men.


There were times when people were "traumatized and shocked" when they saw women's ankles....or in some countries, their faces.
There "were" times? There still is!! Mostly in countries with a high population of Musliums. Some of those women are murdered. Right along side of the LGBTQ people.


Yes, It's nothing new and again, noone cares.
Being afraid of nakedness is a learned behavior. It is culturally preconditioned. The more severely religious a country is, the more body parts of a woman they are afraid of. Not just genitals. It's not just male genitals either. Most of the religious world is more terrified of female genitals. Its funny, isn't it?
"We were all created in the image of God - but, if I see that image, i'll murder you"

You are my wife/property. If you show your face or ankles you will be mudered because you have beyrayed Alla. -Islam


You made no attempt to acknowledge reality. I gave you a list of combinations of sexes, genders, sexual preferences etc that are all real. It's reality. You cant chuck it under the rug. You cant make some nonsensical deflection and assume that reality will go away. It won't.
That's why its called reality - it doesn't go away based on your wishes.

I acknowledge that "genders" are variable and not always related to biological sex. However choosing your gender does not change your chromosomes. You have yet to acknowledge this. This REALITY

Chromosomes are part of the hardware - gender identity is software. They are different things. You can have male software in female hardware and vice versa. You can have male software in male body but with female pattern recognition and behavior. And so on.

I agree. But "softwhere" doesn't change the hardware. And sometimes, the "softwear" has a glitch. Most of the time we repair the glitch in the softwear, we dont just keep using it glitched out and all because we do not want to hurt the "softwear's feelings" even when it most likely will crash the entire system..
Thats reality. Observable factual reality. You can either ignore reality or accept it. Thats it.

Try it yourself



:D lol,

"nobody said anything about body shame" and you follow that immediately by "it would be shameful for ...."

I didnt say anything about it up to that point. But yeah, it would be shameful.

This is just cringy.
:D You rarely see people blow their own arguments up so quickly and so efficiently.

According to you. You have insulted my intelligents and my arguments, assumed my religion and have stopoed short of calling me racist because you know i'm not white. This is what dems do when they lose an argument. ( good job fan boy!!). G

Being ashamed of your body ( which your genitals are part ) is called body shame. The reason why you don't want trans people in women's ( also men's lockers I assume...right ? ) is because they should be ashamed of their bodies. And the women in the locker room would find their body shameful as well. Great.

Body shame is different than being forced to see intact male genitaila on a person who puts on lipstick and says hes a woman. Or has big fake charachure of a woman tits but still has his dick and hairy balls.

No. Because they would use a privacy stall. There are not many and some do not. You cannot ask a trans"woman" to use a privacy stall because that's "transohobia" and causes "trans genocide". According to far left dems.

I would have no issue if transwomen (buo males)would go to facilities if they have had the full genital mutilation and now have an engineered vagina. And have made an effort to present as an actual woman. No beards etc. That would weed out the perv men impostors. Or were required to use privacy stalls. This doesn't prevent them looking at little girls tho


Lol, nice deflection again.

I asked, how many trans men do you know...have you seen examples of it happening.
And you come up with "there was this hidden case once...that i found out easily because it wasnt actually hidden, and it was actually part of a right-wing propaganda story"
[B]Here's a few links,https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k%20in%20March

(Rated centre on Allsides)

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...rans-woman-spa

(Independent local)

https://www.newsweek.com/loudoun-cou...ult-1638787/B]

(Centre right)

My point was, that trans-related stuff is so exceedingly rare, that you have never even seen a trans person in your life. Most people havent. Let alon seeing a trans person commit sexual assault.
Before you can start attacking trans people for sexual assaults, you need to show that they actually attack women more than regular good old men.

They originally and chromosomally still are "good 'ol men.
Yes, perhaps there was somewhere a case where a trans-guy in some way attacked a woman in a locker room.
Now...how many stories have you heard about men attacking women ...anywhere?
Show me statistics that suggest that trans men are attacking women more than other men? If you can't show that, then your fearmongering argument falls apart, because you can just as well get attacked by anyone, anywhere, for any reason.

Show me stats they are not a threat. This is a reletativly new concept (not that trans people are new) but it has come out more in recent times. There is simply not enough data to assess the risk. So, until then, trans women(bio male) need to be considered with other men. (Also, bio male)

It's harder for men to attack women in spaces they are not permitted. It makes it harder. Just like it makes it harder for someone to use a gun to committ a mass shooting when it is harder for them to gain access to the gun. Mkay?


And how many men do you think there are, who have had erections in hot tubs with women?
Even I might have had an erection whilst being in a hot tub with women, back in the days when I was younger and erections were not exactly controllable.

Exactly


And we are back to body shaming.
So what. There was a guy who walked around with his dick out. So what. Make a case for it being traumatizing and horrible. How many of her teammates were damaged by this. How many of them had to quit the sport? Also, these examples you bring up are extremely rare cases( you literally had to search for the whole planet to find a few ). For every case you can find of a trans guy sexually assaulting a woman, you can find a thousand where a good old regular guy does the same.

Well the sports officias told them if they spoke out against it their degrees were in jeopardy. So they were FORCED to see male sex organs. Akin to sexual assult in my opinion.


Go read what socialism is. You clearly dont know. Then go and read what capitalism is. You also dont know that.
In reality, there are no pure capitalist countries anywhere in the world. There are also no pure socialist countries in the world.
Capitalism/Socialism is not binary. Its also a gradient. You can be 10% socialist, 90% capitalist. Or the other way around....or any combination in between.

Yup. The "you do not know about socialiam" .......bla bla

Socialism in a nutshell is collective earning/spending, capitalism is individual earning/spending.

The Percentage of taxes collected by the government more or less shows the level of "socialism" in a country. Now, if you don't want to live in a socialist country, then fine. Stop using roads, bridges, railways, harbors, airports, GPS, hospitals, firefighting services etc etc.

But I pay taxes for those that are taken from my EARNED money. So ill keep using those resources that i paid for. Thank you very much!!

Those are all socialist programs. You just don't know what socialism is.

"Said every failed socialist nation......" Didnt i say you woukd say that? Lmao


As time goes on, we inevitably must go towards high level of socialism( maybe even 70-80% ) because the end stage of pure capitalism is ultimately slavery/old school feudalism.
And with the advancements of science, technology and artificial intelligence...its only a matter of time when 1 megacorporation owns everything and thanks to advanced machines, don't need humans anymore. We are already close to that point. Mega corporations in the US make their own laws, pay 0 taxes( like amazon ) and can fuck their employes over however they like. Pure capitalism is good in its infancy and mid-stage, where everybody has an equal chance to succeed. As time goes on, capitalism does what capitalism does best. It accumulates capital and power. We go from a country having 1 000 000 family-owned stores to a country with 100 000 small stores....to a country with almost no small businesses anymore. We go from the 70's where anyone with even a little bit of money could by a woodworking lathe and get their business going,...to 2020's where 500 000 dollars is barely enough to have any chance to start a small business. The more time goes on in an unregulated capitalist country, the more people settle into generational classes, from which there is no escape. Land lords will become literal lords as time goes on, just as they were long time ago.

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by Meowlacy ↗

Then you do know what a fan boy is. Its what you do for American democrats.

Again, you just keep pulling shit out of your ass.
You know for a fact that im not an American and i don't give any fucks about democrats. I simply recognize that out of the 2 shit-sandwitches currently available in the US, democrats are far better. Its a simple fact.

So have you just wipped out your dong and balls and walked around your nieces? Don't answer, I bet you have not.

Can you make any serious argument and not reduce everything into a stupid strawman?
Why would I wipe out my dong and balls around my nieces? Are they children? No. They are adults, already preconditioned to be ashamed of nudity...but...still, yes, they have gone skinny dipping with other naked men and relatives and they have never had any problems with it.

I did explain but here it goes again.

No, you don't seem to know what an explanation is.
Explanation is something that connects the dots of 2 or more observations or claims.

There is a penis/vagina.
There is a traumatized child after seeing a penis/vagina.

Connect the dots. Paint a picture for me, and describe what goes on in your mind and in the mind of your imaginary child who gets traumatized.

So, a 4-year-old walks into a shower and sees a man with his dingdong hanging out. She then starts screaming and runs in terror. She reaches her mom and starts explaining what had just happened.
What is her explanation?

I'll tell you one last time. A child doesn't give a fuck about genitals. Weather they see the genitals at the beach, shower, locker room, on the streets etc. Location is irrelevant. It doesn't matter.
Consent is also irrelevant. Neither of those things will change what genitals are, and how children perceive those things.

No one except religious zelots who wouldn't even allow their children to go swimming "teach their children to be ashamed of their bodies".(Mostly devout Musliums) You have a poor understanding of modern Chrisianity.

All religions teach body shame. You just don't recognize it for what it is. You, saying that being naked is wrong and showing yourself naked anywhere is immoral somehow.... that's what I'm talking about. You and other people who are constantly saying that the bikiny region is somehow "bad" and "immoral" or "traumatizing" or "disgusting" are the ones who are literally shaming parts of the body. Thats literally what you do. You pick a part of the body and arbitrarily say "this is bad. I don't want anyone to see it. Keep it hidden at all times."

It is a learned behavior. It was introduced by religions in an attempt to control women's sexuality.

Yes. But as humans we are sexually arroused by the nakedness of our partners. Especially men. Hense why women dress in scant clothing to attract men.

And guess why we are so arroused by scant clothing or a glimpse of a boob or something?
Because of lifetime of body shaming that has kept women covered up and has kept men from seeing naked women on a daily basis.
I can tell you that if men saw naked women all the time, then they would be tired of it in less than a day or two. You can walk around beaches where women don't wear bra's and stare at all the boobs in the beach. Guess how long that craze lasts?
Even the biggest horn-dog stops staring boobs in less than a day. There were times when women werent allowed to show any parts of their bodies.
The argument was the same stupid one as what you just used, That men can't handle being around women unless they are bagged up( like in some Muslim countries even nowdays).
I as man can confirm that seeing women outside of bags hasn't really caused any problems for me. Seeing women with long jeans vs short skirts isn't a problem either. You can now make the skirt shorter and shorter and see...that nothing really happens once the skirt disappears.

Some of those women are murdered. Right along side of the LGBTQ people.

Yes...you can see some of these stonings right on this forum...stonings performed in the name of christian god, because women didn't wear their black bags or expressed their sexuality in some way. Dont you see that the same kind of sexual repression that sends many women into their early grave in some muslim countries is the same sexual repression that you promote with your genital shaming. Its the same thing. You just don't see it. The difference is that muslim men have picked different parts of the female body that are deemed "shameful" for the public eye.
You picked genitals for shaming, they extended the body shame to legs/face.
Thats it.

You are my wife/property. If you show your face or ankles you will be mudered because you have beyrayed Alla. -Islam

Yup, the usual religious body shaming.
Also, a quick reminder just for you. Allah IS the Christian god Yahwe. So, if this was supposed to show that muslims are so bad...then, its important to remind yourself that they believe the same god Christians do.

I acknowledge that "genders" are variable and not always related to biological sex. However choosing your gender does not change your chromosomes.

Who is saying that choosing your gender changes your chromosomes? Saying so is so insane that noone has ever said so.
I dare you to find a scientist/politician/legislation that suggests otherwise.

Show me stats they are not a threat. This is a reletativly new concept (not that trans people are new) but it has come out more in recent times.

Lack of stats is the stats. If there was any significant threat, then it would be known already. Also, ill say it again, the entire trans community is so tiny and insignificant, that even talking about it pointless. Politicians use this shit as a red herring. Putin(that muther fucking dictator) use is as part of genocidal state propaganda to rally up stupid people.
That's how this shit works.
I'll ask again, how many trans people have you seen in your life?
How many people do you know who have seen trans people?
The number is most likely 0.
So, even if all the trans men became rapists, then still, it would be a far less significant problem than the good old regular men.
But ofc, trans people are just the usual people and don't have any higher crime rate compared to anyone else.

So they were FORCED to see male sex organs. Akin to sexual assult in my opinion.

Saying somethign this stupid is one of the reasons why rapes and other violent crimes against women go unpunished and un-reported.
You...with that stupid argument are empowering rapists...and you dont even understand it.

Calling something like that "sexual assualt" will diminish the meaning of the word sexual assualt. Nowdays, when a woman says that they were sexually assaulted...i dont honestly care. At least initially. Most men are starting to give less fucks because the meaning of the word "sexual assault" has been diluted to the point where someone can say " i was a victim of a horrible sexual assault " and in reality, all it turns out to be is " i saw a naked guy on my way to work ". Go and talk to women who have actually been sexually assaulted, beaten and raped....and tell them that "seeing someones naked willy" constitutes as an assault.

So they were FORCED to see male sex organs. Akin to sexual assult in my opinion.

Also, id mention, that noone forced them to see male sex organs. They always had the chance to close their eyes and sing "la-la-la".
They could always just leave the room and wait until the trans guy has left.

Yup. The "you do not know about socialiam" .......bla bla

lol, this right here shows how little you are capable of thinking.
Nice way to engage an argument....even children are capable of understanding more than just " bla bla bla" :D

What i said about socialism/capitalism is a fact.
Again, either live with it, or deny it.
There is no pure capitalism, there is no pure socialism.
All government programs are also socialist programs.