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Re: ICE Agent Shoots and Kills Woman in Minneapolis

"Comply with Law Enforcement or they will literally kill you"

Sounds kind of totalitarian to me. Anyone else?
Doesn’t matter what it sounds like. That woman found out what happens if when you don’t comply.

Her family doesn’t care that she “dindunuffin”, they have to miss her forever.

If you want to reform the police or federal agents, you can do so in court. Don’t go telling your fellow citizens that they should ignore federal agents, unless your goal is to get them killed
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She is not completely blocking the road. There is footage of her car stopped across the road, but other vehicles driving past.

However I think there is sufficient evidence to say that she was trying to obstruct law enforcement.



However none of that has any relevance at all to the question of whether shooting her was lawful. It just does not matter.



The question is did he have lawful justification to shoot, and its not as simple as you say.

It is common for law enforcement to stand in front of a vehicle to stop it from leaving. You can see that on hundreds of bodycam videos, and there was a claim that agents are trained to do that. However its hard for an agent to justify that they were forced to shoot a fleeing person because they would be run over when it was in fact the agent's own choice to put themselves in that position.



That is not a valid comparison. The comparison would be: If you were shopping and got into an argument with a member of the public and you stood in front of their car to prevent them from leaving, if they tried to leave and you were standing there you would want them arrested.

At which time, the Police you called might as you "Why the fuck were you standing there in the first place? You created the problem you are complaining about".




You can't shoot someone just because they don't stop.
I agree with you whole heartedly but again given the fact the police in the states are so bullet happy I personally would have just stopped because I would be scared that I would become a victim of this exact action.

I dont condone it at all, I think its scary as f but again its why I would not put myself in that position and stop what I was doing and put my hands up.

Very fucked up indeed I think Vances comments were despicable. Very Very sad for the girl and her family. I guess well learn more in due course.
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She was asked to just stop. This was not peaceful protesting, go find a front view photo since I can't post it here. She escalated a high stress situation the moment she hit the gas pedal. You can call it murder or self defense...this situation was avoidable.
We wouldn't need ICE if we didn't have millions of people here illegally. Every single country needs borders, limitations and rules. Our country is struggling on its own when I know plenty of fellow Americans that can barely get healthcare, keep food on the table and needs met. We don't have billions to spend on illegal immigration, but that's what's happened. If people want to come to America, go through the legal process. Letting millions in created a mess, and there's no easy solution to that. I try to look at both sides to this entire situation. I just find it interesting that the same people saying she was needlessly murdered were more than likely saying Charlie Kirk deserved his fate when the guy was just giving his public opinions.
Our country is so divided and its just going to keep getting worse. It's sad this woman died but this was an avoidable situation that she escalated.
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Re: ICE Agent Shoots and Kills Woman in Minneapolis

"Comply with Law Enforcement or they will literally kill you"

Sounds kind of totalitarian to me. Anyone else?
This is a possible scenario in high stress situations that get escalated. In a situation like this a car can be a weapon. If she was asked to stop, just stop. Attempt to deescalate. If she had taken her foot off the gas, and foot off the brake, she'd be here today.
She was not peacefully protesting.
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I am TELLING you that there is an avenue for prosecution if they want to pursue it. And its chances, while not excellent, are still well above zero.
The chances are especially low as the Feds, obviously anticipating independent State action have now had the FBI lock the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) out of the evidence files.

A friend pointed out that if the Feds want this case to go away, the surest way might be to obtain an indictment get the charges dismissed, which permanently quashes it under double jeopardy, only the possibility of future federal prosecution.

On the other hand, if MN really wants justice for Renee Nicole Good, then it might hold off until after Jan 20, 2029 since there is no statute of limitations on murder. This would avoid similarly having to fail, given that a pre-Jan 20, 2029 case would be kicked to the federal courts by the Trump DOJ invoking 28 USC §1442, and then from the MN district court, where it would go, DOJ will certainly claim it doesn't meet the bar set in Martin v. United States (2025) for skirting the holdings in In Re Neagle, and if the district court judge disagrees with DOJ, then that issue would then be settled by the 8th circuit where 10 of the 11 judges of the 8th circuit were nominated by Republicans, including 4 by Trump, where it would die.

So yeah, basicly, any pre-Jan 20, 2029 prosecution of the ICE officer would be a shitshow.
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Minnesota still has to conduct an investigation. The FBI can lock their info but I don't see how they can block a criminal investigation within their jurisdiction. I agree charges should wait but they won't. The trial would be interesting, but a federal judge could rule they have no authority over the case on issues during a federal operation.
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Good work ICE. Entitled white liberal women need to stay out of the way. She has no right to impede an operation. Stay in the sidelines dumbasses.
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My adult daughter brought up this incident. I told her I wasn’t going to get into the ICE person’s response right/wrong but this is what I will say; don’t you put yourself in a position to have any action you take misunderstood by the good cop who perceives a threat or the bad cop who responds with a horrible over-reaction (10/80/10 rule applies to law enforcement, as it does with every other occupation). Take your ticket, have your day in court. How many videos do you need to watch or news reports of matters being adjudicated in the street to know it seldom if ever works out for the better for anyone. She kept pushing this with me, with the “fascist pigs” rhetoric to which I told her if she really believes everyone with a badge is a fascist pig who gets out of bed every day hoping today is the day they get to blow someone away, isn’t that more of a reason to think carefully. If you are right, be right in court and have the last laugh where it counts. So “comply or die” she asked? Yeah, that’s entirely possible given how you act and the unknown of where that person resides on the 10/80/10 scale. I guess if you feel it’s worth rolling the dice, then have at it. Wouldn’t be the first time a kid feels their parent is full of shit, I suppose.
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sad the vehicle got shot. glad the officer is okay!
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Your frustration is completely justified, and I completely agree with you. But don't press the issue...move on. Don't attack the Mods.
Sound advice..


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