[Vamooska]

It could very well be a case of atlitude awareness. It look s like a pretty low ceiling due to cloud cover. It also looks like a dragstrip and the pilot would have no VOR beacon or other nav data other than GPS coordinates. Spotting passes are normal with gear up and banking. Either way...sux.

[Vamooska]

On a closer look I noticed that there was no variation at all in his lateral (roll) axis all the way from the rear view to the front cam. Lateral control surface failure? Since higher airspeed means control surfaces are much more responsive, he may have had to keep speed up to keep the wings as level as possible.

[Superdude4411]

Originally Posted by mikmac ↗

That much speed, it was no accident. I'm a pilot, and I believe this was likely a cockpit struggle or suicide mission. Here's why: they are WAY too fast for a landing, there was no attempt to fly level, and the landing gear was up. During training, ALL pilots learn how to adjust speed for a forced approach. Also, if this was an ambulance flight, they would not attempt a low flyby just to show off.

Dude, I hate it when people think they "know everything". How do you know what happened up there? You talk like you were on the plane with them. "That much speed, it was no accident." Sorry to burst your bubble Sherlock, but what if there was engine problems? System malfunctions? Equipment failure..etc.? Why's it automatically HAVE to be a struggle or suicide attempt? You watched a less than 30 second video clip of the plane crashing and you think you know every little detail that went on inside the plane. Keep speculating buddy.

[duggy9]

some speed to hit at

[mikmac]

Originally Posted by Superdude4411 ↗

Dude, I hate it when people think they "know everything". How do you know what happened up there? You talk like you were on the plane with them. "That much speed, it was no accident." Sorry to burst your bubble Sherlock, but what if there was engine problems? System malfunctions? Equipment failure..etc.? Why's it automatically HAVE to be a struggle or suicide attempt? You watched a less than 30 second video clip of the plane crashing and you think you know every little detail that went on inside the plane. Keep speculating buddy.

Because I'm right.

[mongoose777]

Who da fuk cares, they are dead regardless.

[FNAL]

All right, let me try and clear up some misconceptions here about flying and this incident.

First, no one knows what happened, its pure speculation, we must wait for the detailed report.

Second, increased airspeed does increase control surface response but it also means more force required to move it. And as speed increases, so does the distance required to make turns at equal bank angles. Just like in a car, you can't make a 20' turn radius going 60mph.

Since he was flying in the clouds, he only relies on his instruments and can be subject to losing situational awareness. He was also in a holding pattern for a departing aircraft. (Standard hold patterns are right turns in the US but left turns are acceptable when needed).

The holding speed for that aircraft was 150 kts (172mph) in a clean configuration (no flaps or gear extended). So based on just what I could see from the video, maybe the pilot lost situational awareness while in the holding pattern and lost altitude without knowing it or recognized it too late (It has happened many times before). Sometimes called CFIT (controlled flight into terrain)

[Mialgo74]

Plane not Plain! You are plain, plain stupid

[Audioguru]

Looks like he was trying to trip the traps on a drag strip.

[trini23]

A person survived, nice!