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One minute he’s enjoying a ride in his new vehicle next he’s dead. Truly sucks because it just seemed to be driver error.
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WTF is (was) that car made out of? Looks like fucking recycled newspaper or something equally squishy. The damn car just turned into mush.
It's what makes them cool and not cool. Unlike most cars that have many pieces of sheet metal spot welded together to make the body, and plastic bumpers bolted on. Vettes are large molded bodies. Which gives it that clean look without seems because the bumpers are part of the body. The pillars are part of the body. And it's super lightweight.

And it can be use as peanut brittle during the holidays.
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Under no circumstance will a worn out bald tire have more grip than it did when it was new. By the time the tread is gone, all that's left in a very thin layer of rubber that will barely provide any sort of traction.
Rubber is rubber, it doesn't matter how thin it is.

It will puncture much more easily. And it won't have any control on wet surfaces, or sand or dirt roads. It's risky to drive on bald tires for those reasons. Especially having a blowout from a puncture or just thin rubber overheating.

But if it never rained, and our road were always clean. Everyone would be driving with bald tires.

It matters how bald your tires are. And it matters the type and quality of the tires.

With economy tires, you're probably correct, they are likely much worse bald. But a ultra high performance tire is a different story. The tread depth is very low to begin with. And the compound is specific for maximum grip and larger contact.

Which is what you'd likely have on a Corvette.
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Rubber is rubber, it doesn't matter how thin it is.

It will puncture much more easily. And it won't have any control on wet surfaces, or sand or dirt roads. It's risky to drive on bald tires for those reasons. Especially having a blowout from a puncture or just thin rubber overheating.

But if it never rained, and our road were always clean. Everyone would be driving with bald tires.

It matters how bald your tires are. And it matters the type and quality of the tires.

With economy tires, you're probably correct, they are likely much worse bald. But a ultra high performance tire is a different story. The tread depth is very low to begin with. And the compound is specific for maximum grip and larger contact.

Which is what you'd likely have on a Corvette.
Don't think this is entirely accurate... Compound, tire structure/design, and of course heat cycles all factor in for most performance tires (including slicks). At some point that super soft compound loses it's elasticity and grip, not matter the amount of remaining tread or tread pattern. I've tracked my dailies, weekend warrior style, for a few years now and can definitely tell when the tires are cycled out. Daily driving probably affects the consistency of heat cycles as well on the r-compound tires I'm currently driving on.

But again, doubt that accident had anything to do with tires, and all to do with turned off nannies, gobs of torque, and stupidity.

And heads-up, the C7Z is made up of SMC & select carbon fiber panels (+urethane bumper covers), bolted and or bonded to an aluminum chassis. SMC is a bit lighter and stronger than old school fiberglass but more brittle, which should explain the explosion of fragments. Traditional fiberglass Vettes went away sometime during the 3rd gen production, late 60's or early 70's maybe.
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This happened 9/28/21 about 3 miles from my house. Corvette Z06 in center lane drops a gear and throttles down. The 36 year old driver had the car only 2 days and the rear tires were bald. He lost control, crossed the center divider and was hit by a F-150 directly in the driver door. Car was split into multiple pieces. My friend owns a towing company and was on scene for cleanup.
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Corvette guy was a Fatal? I sure hope so.
Me too I’m glad he died instead of just being disabled so somebody else had to take care of him we have got to get over this toxic masculinity where we admire men for going really really fast for no reason
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Don't think this is entirely accurate... Compound, tire structure/design, and of course heat cycles all factor in for most performance tires (including slicks). At some point that super soft compound loses it's elasticity and grip, not matter the amount of remaining tread or tread pattern. I've tracked my dailies, weekend warrior style, for a few years now and can definitely tell when the tires are cycled out. Daily driving probably affects the consistency of heat cycles as well on the r-compound tires I'm currently driving on.

But again, doubt that accident had anything to do with tires, and all to do with turned off nannies, gobs of torque, and stupidity.

And heads-up, the C7Z is made up of SMC & select carbon fiber panels (+urethane bumper covers), bolted and or bonded to an aluminum chassis. SMC is a bit lighter and stronger than old school fiberglass but more brittle, which should explain the explosion of fragments. Traditional fiberglass Vettes went away sometime during the 3rd gen production, late 60's or early 70's maybe.
Smc is basically fiberglass. I know especially on newer vettes they'll say it smc plastic. But I've seen it broken apart, held it in my hand. It's basically fiberglass no matter what they call it. Even smells and will make you itch like normal fiberglass.

As far as tires. I go back to what kind of tires you have. If a person not familiar sees a car with ultra high performance tires on. They may think these tires are worn out, they're practically bald.

But that's the Way they are. Many have little to no tread on the outer tire, and minimal tread on the inside. And the tread depth isn't much.
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Sorry, but what you stated is not completely true. Bald tires can have more grip, if they're clean and have been warmed up sufficiently.

Not more grip than a racing tire, but more grip than a normal road tire. Because as stated, it has more road contact with the rubber.

But you are also correct because under normal, even most circumstances the bald tires will be softer and pick up debris more easily. And little things such as small amounts of sand, gravel, and dirt/dust are always present on roads and will effect the grip tremendously.

None of this had anything to do with this accident though.

Inexperience did. People think, probably because they've done it in less powerful vehicles that you just smash the gas and do burnouts or launch past cars.

When you're driving a powerful rear wheel drive this is extremely stupid and obviously dangerous. One tire looses grip before the other and you're going for a ride unless you're a great wheelman or get lucky.

That all that happened, he floored it, one of two things happened.
One tire broke loose and the other didn't. And even for a split second this can cause a spin. Or both tires broke loose and then one grabbed some grip for even a split second.

In a powerful rear wheel drive you just can't when you're driving along at 35+ mph just stab it to the floor.

Even great drivers have a hard time controlling a burnout at that speed and above.

Tony Stewart was great at it. He would do burnouts going in like 60 or maybe 80. He's a legend, everyone else should just not.

This guy would have had a chance if he just kept it floored, maybe he would have did a donut.
Clearly you’ve never driven a rear wheel drive car with any power. Were you just making this up as you went along?
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