[jintsy]

Midlife crisis averted

[niknik]

Originally Posted by dark_angel ↗

Sorry, but what you stated is not completely true. Bald tires do not have more grip than when they were new. You're confusing new "slick" or racing tires with worn out normal tires. A new slick tire or a track tire like Michelin Cup2 for example, has very little tread, but they're made of a sticky compound for superior dry asphalt grip. A normal summer tire does not grip better once the tread has been completely worn away, it's far worse for grip and isn't mean to be used once the tires have worn past their wear indicators.

Sorry, but what you stated is not completely true. Bald tires can have more grip, if they're clean and have been warmed up sufficiently.

Not more grip than a racing tire, but more grip than a normal road tire. Because as stated, it has more road contact with the rubber.

But you are also correct because under normal, even most circumstances the bald tires will be softer and pick up debris more easily. And little things such as small amounts of sand, gravel, and dirt/dust are always present on roads and will effect the grip tremendously.

None of this had anything to do with this accident though.

Inexperience did. People think, probably because they've done it in less powerful vehicles that you just smash the gas and do burnouts or launch past cars.

When you're driving a powerful rear wheel drive this is extremely stupid and obviously dangerous. One tire looses grip before the other and you're going for a ride unless you're a great wheelman or get lucky.

That all that happened, he floored it, one of two things happened.
One tire broke loose and the other didn't. And even for a split second this can cause a spin. Or both tires broke loose and then one grabbed some grip for even a split second.

In a powerful rear wheel drive you just can't when you're driving along at 35+ mph just stab it to the floor.

Even great drivers have a hard time controlling a burnout at that speed and above.

Tony Stewart was great at it. He would do burnouts going in like 60 or maybe 80. He's a legend, everyone else should just not.

This guy would have had a chance if he just kept it floored, maybe he would have did a donut.

[Asiatrav]

Originally Posted by kbt3168 ↗

The corvette driver had the traction control completely disabled.

A modern ‘Vette (or any muscle car), won’t lose complete traction like that on a dry pavement straightaway without first turning off the safety shit - regardless of tire quality. He was a dumbass and a poor driver.

Finally, someone in the know.

[HYPRTCKR]

~ Oh yeah a quick speedy overtake showoff from a cheap racer, with bald tires, will do the trick to show who's the boss tone of the road.

[upinthemountains]

At least the guy driving the car doesn’t have to be concerned about his small dick anymore.

[dark_angel]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

Sorry, but what you stated is not completely true. Bald tires can have more grip, if they're clean and have been warmed up sufficiently.

Not more grip than a racing tire, but more grip than a normal road tire. Because as stated, it has more road contact with the rubber.

But you are also correct because under normal, even most circumstances the bald tires will be softer and pick up debris more easily. And little things such as small amounts of sand, gravel, and dirt/dust are always present on roads and will effect the grip tremendously.

None of this had anything to do with this accident though.

Inexperience did. People think, probably because they've done it in less powerful vehicles that you just smash the gas and do burnouts or launch past cars.

When you're driving a powerful rear wheel drive this is extremely stupid and obviously dangerous. One tire looses grip before the other and you're going for a ride unless you're a great wheelman or get lucky.

That all that happened, he floored it, one of two things happened.
One tire broke loose and the other didn't. And even for a split second this can cause a spin. Or both tires broke loose and then one grabbed some grip for even a split second.

In a powerful rear wheel drive you just can't when you're driving along at 35+ mph just stab it to the floor.

Even great drivers have a hard time controlling a burnout at that speed and above.

Tony Stewart was great at it. He would do burnouts going in like 60 or maybe 80. He's a legend, everyone else should just not.

This guy would have had a chance if he just kept it floored, maybe he would have did a donut.

Under no circumstance will a worn out bald tire have more grip than it did when it was new. By the time the tread is gone, all that's left in a very thin layer of rubber that will barely provide any sort of traction.

[Stevieaitch]

Ran out of talent before he even had any. Glad hes dead

[RollOnWheelie]

Originally Posted by johnny1124fla ↗

250/500/100 for BOTH BI and UM.....read it...learn it...live it!

As a risk manager I lol'd at your comment.

[Asiatrav]

Originally Posted by quetza ↗

almost certainly did, but fancy cars always have the button option to turn off traction control especially cars like this. responsible people take these types of cars to closed race courses that have public ride days and thats where you turn off the traction control and get jiggy with it.

idiots turn off the traction control on public roads and drop gears and floor it.

source: me (and lots of riding my motorcycle at closed race courses and talking with the guys that show up in their fancy ass cars and do just what i described above)

Concur

That car has a shit ton of nannies, but they only work if you keep them on. Almost certain that driver turned everything off & decided WOT was the way to go.

It's funny, really haven't seen this that often at HPDE or autocross, but at Cars & Coffee... Lots of near "crowd-plow" action, from several different makes & models of big torque cars.

[Pyramid_Head]

People underestimate the power they have under their hoods. I see people driving like complete morons out here in California all the time. I'm surprised I don't see shit like this more often.