[Oswald2001]

Yeah. I had some Beretta 92 mags made in Italy stamped 9 x 21 and they fit, fed and functioned flawlessly in both my 9mm Parabellum Beretta 92's.

Same exact dimensions as a 9 x 19 mag.

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Originally Posted by nyazzip ↗

....maybe next time you can make sense, dumbshit.

what didnt make sense?

the first which is fact-based statistics?

the second, sarcasm?

perhaps the third, truth?

since you cannot read well, i made the above tard-proof. so instead of schoolyard childish deflection, you cite what needs clarification.

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Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Eh. As long as you know what you're doing, I guess. I've seen some images on here where people fucked up and took the wrong cocktail and they looked anything but nice and quiet when they (and their inevitable mess of vomit, piss, shit, and nasal foaming) were discovered by their family.

The gun may be abrupt and messy, but at least it's quick and fairly hard to fuck up with. Way too easy to screw up with a noose or pills or poison. Then you just wind up messy anyway, but still alive and probably half-retarded to boot.

i bet a dozen oxys and a pint of alcohol like bourbon before bedtime will get you 99.9%

if not 100.

i had a cousin commit suicide by drinking drano. if i remember the hospital prolongued her death for three days on top of it.

i had a buddy in high school chin a shotgun and spread his pudding. his dad rushed in and he died less than 3 months later too. natural causes but ill swear by a broken heart.

had a buddy down two oxys and some whiskey after we all played poker one nite. he was found three days later.

worst one was a fellow Marine and graduate of Notre Dame who went into the hills and shot himself in the gut and they said he lived up to three days before dying.

when its time its time looks real in that context

[Oswald2001]

A guy I knew shot himself in the stomach. (Worst place.)

He lived and suffered for the rest of his life from all that damage.

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thats where that Jarhead shot himself too. i agree man , terrible place to shoot yourself

[editheraven]

If I had a bullet for every fight I had with my parents I'd need a tommy gun.

[GregK]

Originally Posted by Spiffyfable ↗

So if she shot herself... how did the gun get under the bed??

Im thinking gun fell on floor and parents kicked it under in the chaos.

[GlowingGhoul]

Originally Posted by nyazzip ↗

.....again, another great reason why guns/ proliferation sucks. THIS is the most likely way your handgun is going to kill someone- despite what the NRA and Hollywood told you, its not going to be you standing over a bad guy all Clint Eastwood style. fact.

Suicide rates between the US and Western Europe are similar, despite much higher gun ownership in the US. Suicide rates by US state do not have any correlation to gun ownership rates.

What all of that points to is that if a gun is not available, another method will be found.

Personally, I think that one of the benefits of owning a firearm is the ability to kill yourself instantly, without suffering, should circumstances warrant it (ie incurable, painful fatal disease, not that I'm thinking of doing it).

The focus on firearms "related" deaths instead of homicides, is a way for anti-2nd Amendment groups to fluff the numbers and mask the ineffectiveness restrictive gun laws have had on violent crime.

[nyazzip]

What all of that points to is that if a gun is not available, another method will be found.

I don't believe this, and I don't think there is evidence to support it: it is so easy to retire to a bedroom and pull out a pistol in a moment of passion, and flex your index finger.....it is not nearly as easy to do so with chemicals, ropes, knives, carbon monoxide, jumping, etcetera....

[nyazzip]

not that I give a shit that humans shoot themselves. I just care about the innocent that are almost always targeted