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Originally Posted by nyazzip ↗

I don't believe this, and I don't think there is evidence to support it: it is so easy to retire to a bedroom and pull out a pistol in a moment of passion, and flex your index finger.....it is not nearly as easy to do so with chemicals, ropes, knives, carbon monoxide, jumping, etcetera....

youre right.. he submits robin williams as evidence

[FavaBeans]

Brat!...she was probably just a spoil pos

[Pictor]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

Yeah. I had some Beretta 92 mags made in Italy stamped 9 x 21 and they fit, fed and functioned flawlessly in both my 9mm Parabellum Beretta 92's.

Same exact dimensions as a 9 x 19 mag.

The are only one mag for either 9 x 19 or 9 x 21 because the total length of either cartride is the same. A bit risky, because a 9 x 19 will chamber and fire in a 9 x 21 chamber/barrel but not the other way around!

[LrlynJy]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Seriously? Come on, man.

Look at the blood. Right side of the pillow, right side of the bed. She was lying on the right side of the bed, shot herself using the weapon in her right hand, and dropped it when she died. It slid like 8 inches under the bed. Hardly a miracle of physics.

Alternatively, her parents may have knocked it under there when they both ran in and tried to revive her right after the shot.

Whatever the case, it hardly requires Sherlock Holmes. Don't overthink it.

gun held in dying grip, swung out and under the bed, pivot effect caused by the edge of bed on downswing threw pistol under the bed. dont need too much imagination to figure that out.

[LrlynJy]

Originally Posted by nyazzip ↗

not that I give a shit that humans shoot themselves. I just care about the innocent that are almost always targeted

if they are not that innocent, i think they would rather go out and shoot somebody else in their anger and frustrations.

[GlowingGhoul]

Originally Posted by nyazzip ↗

I don't believe this, and I don't think there is evidence to support it: it is so easy to retire to a bedroom and pull out a pistol in a moment of passion, and flex your index finger.....it is not nearly as easy to do so with chemicals, ropes, knives, carbon monoxide, jumping, etcetera....

One major problem with people in the US today, especially the left leaning ones like you is that you equate your "feelings" and "intuition" with facts.

France, Belgium, Finland, Austria among many others Euro countries, as well as Japan, South Korea and others elsewhere ALL HAVE HIGHER SUICIDE RATES THAN THE US.

I can quote you the specific numbers, Like Belgium having 17 suicides per 100,000 vs the US's 12.5, but A) I'm not here to do your fucking homework shallow thinker and B) I know your type. Once presented with a mountain of unassailable evidence you'll just move on to the next topic and will continue to believe in your "feelings".

Now go see a psychiatrist about your irrational fear and loathing of firearms.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by GlowingGhoul ↗

One major problem with people in the US today, especially the left leaning ones like you is that you equate your "feelings" and "intuition" with facts.


I'm not here to do your fucking homework shallow thinker [/COLOR]and B) I know your type. Once presented with a mountain of unassailable evidence you'll just move on to the next topic and will continue to believe in your "feelings".

Now go see a psychiatrist about your irrational fear and loathing of firearms.

"Liberalism is a mental disorder."

- Michael Savage

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Dr Savage is the greatest!

[Warnebald]

We need to study brain chemistry in suicidal people, we already know that some drugs that alter brain chemistry can cause people to become stubbornly suicidal and yet we still deal with suicidal people with a talking. It seems that we could save a lot more people if we could fix the glitch in brain chemistry that causes a reversal of the survival instinct instead of just trying to talk them out of it.

[nyazzip]

One major problem with people in the US today, especially the left leaning ones like you is that you equate your "feelings" and "intuition" with facts.

France, Belgium, Finland, Austria among many others Euro countries, as well as Japan, South Korea and others elsewhere ALL HAVE HIGHER SUICIDE RATES THAN THE US.

I can quote you the specific numbers, Like Belgium having 17 suicides per 100,000 vs the US's 12.5, but A) I'm not here to do your fucking homework shallow thinker and B) I know your type. Once presented with a mountain of unassailable evidence you'll just move on to the next topic and will continue to believe in your "feelings".

Now go see a psychiatrist about your irrational fear and loathing of firearms.

direct quote from a Forbes article I just read: "Number one in gun deaths is Wyoming, wide open territory for anyone who wants a gun. And the top 10 is filled out by Deep South states Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Tennessee, all with open gun laws.

Massachusetts, with some of the strictest gun laws in the country has by far the lowest gun death rate. And New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut — strict states all — are in the bottom five.

When so-called “self-inflicted” death by gunshot is taken into account, the liberal thesis is supported almost perfectly: more guns, more gun deaths; less guns, less gun deaths. It’s as simple as that.

While this correlation is astonishing, it’s not surprising, since such findings are intuitive. Even Bill from my previous piece likes living in Massachusetts, a safer perch from which to espouse his belief in Second Amendment rights.

Looking deeper into the data, though, shows a second astonishing fact that actually is surprising: just how high the gun-suicide rate really is. The preamble to the CDC’s National Vital Statistics Reports Vol. 60, No. 3 cites firearms as one of the “four major mechanisms of injury in 2009” (the year of the survey), along with poisoning, motor vehicles, and falling. In that year, 59.8% of all “firearm injury deaths” were suicides, and 36.7% were homicides.

Although gun accidents are tragic, and we tend to hear about them (e.g., an 8-year-old boy was killed in Massachusetts in 2008 when a 9mm Micro Uzi machine gun he was playing with at a gun fair kicked back and shot him in the head), accidental gun death is relatively rare, accounting for only 1.8% all gun deaths. “Undetermined” and “legal intervention/war” categories were even less likely, at 0.7% and 1%, respectively.

So, suicide tops homicide by nearly two to one in the gun-death business. What the heck is going on?"

and here ya go, knock yourself out: https://www.google.com/search?source....0.3pZDELuZpXQ