[StalkingYou]

Originally Posted by methfreeq ↗

Shame, she looks cute.

Would it be okay if she were ugly instead?
Just wondering?

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by StalkingYou ↗

What about doing a tox screen? Like through blood or urine?
I can’t fathom my daughter dying in some strange situation and not trying to find the cause.

In many lesser developed nations, postmortem workups are incumbent upon the family to pay for and thus are refused. Most of the time, however, when the police are pushing for an investigation, the state will pay for that procedure.

I do not know specifically what the case was here, but the interview I read with the investigating officer certainly made it seem like the family was the one refusing, despite police pressure urging them to have an autopsy performed.

And typically a tox screen is part of the autopsy process itself. A partial screen can be conducted independently, but is done during the autopsy in every case I have researched. The samples are usually sent off to a lab for processing and results returned 4-6 weeks later. In fact, it is usually tox screen results that cause autopsy releases to be delayed.

Certain substances are detectable only in blood, certain ones only in urine. Others are easiest to detect in vitreous fluid or bile. A full workup is required to be most comprehensive, but good results can be obtained from a couple of samples if some are not available. Sometimes the eyes have been harvested for organ donation (which is time sensitive) prior to the autopsy, so vitreous fluid is unavailable for testing. Urine is also often unavailable due to peri/post-mortem bladder evacuation. Based on the scene reports and the photos of her jeans, I'd say that was likely the case in this death.

[StalkingYou]

I was a lab tech/phlebotomist for 15 years. My mind always goes toward scientific evidence and tox screens. lol

I had no idea that they couldn’t do one without the other over there. I’d be really interested in finding out what she was drugged with. It has to be drugs or some undiagnosed cardiac condition? I need answers lol

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by StalkingYou ↗

I was a lab tech/phlebotomist for 15 years. My mind always goes toward scientific evidence and tox screens. lol

I had no idea that they couldn’t do one without the other over there. I’d be really interested in finding out what she was drugged with. It has to be drugs or some undiagnosed cardiac condition? I need answers lol

Oh, they can do them independently of one another, I suspect. They've just been lumped together in every case I've ever seen.

And as much as we'd all dig having some answers to the weird ones, I'm afraid in this case as in most, you'll have to settle for some crappy pictures and my poorly-translated explanations.

[StalkingYou]

^ which is still very much appreciated

[Dodger712]

There was a guy in the US who was about to go to jail for something naughty financially. He slipped himself something in the courtroom that killed him. He died from lack of oxygen, that was the effect of whatever he had slipped into his mouth. Cyanide maybe? And it could be slipped into a drink from what I know.

[papadxx]

Then they collect the insurance money the next day. Classic scheme

[Pink_spyder]

Originally Posted by Dodger712 ↗

There was a guy in the US who was about to go to jail for something naughty financially. He slipped himself something in the courtroom that killed him. He died from lack of oxygen, that was the effect of whatever he had slipped into his mouth. Cyanide maybe? And it could be slipped into a drink from what I know.

https://www.documentingreality.com/f...erdict-107543/
There's the story, Dodger.
From her symptoms before death, it sounds like anaphylactic shock to me.

[minka1]

Poisoned

[icehole]

4th picture confirm it was in Indonesia
look at that sign, it was written in Indonesia language