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11-25-2014, 10:36 PM
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Re: Cop Shot and Killed Standing in Front of a School
No, I wasnt interested in having actions explained. I was wondering if in your opinion a police officer is capable of malicious wrongdoing. Or if ideologically by virtue of the occupation and proxy to danger, that allows they are exempt from accountability. To me, a morally corrupt person is a morally corrupt person no matter what color they are or what they do for a living. |
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#22
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11-25-2014, 11:48 PM
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 My Rank: FIRST SERGEANT Poster Rank:434 Comrade Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,636 Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Quoted: 1167 Post(s)
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Re: Cop Shot and Killed Standing in Front of a School
Dude...I'm a cop, not a robot. Of course a police officer is as capable as the next guy of malicious wrongdoing in the right circumstances. We're all people...granted as a police officer I was required to have a larger than normal penis, but aside from that difference we're pretty much the same as everyone else. You anti-police or paranoid of police types always thinks cops are just out there in the community running willy nilly and shooting any minority or nardowell we come across. I have no idea where this perception comes from. As late as the 1960's police officers were allowed to shoot fleeing felons. Then during the late 1960's and early 1970's we began to get citizen oversight groups. Then we had the Rodney King beating, then the LAPD Rampart Scandal, and on and on. Do you know how rare it is for a police officer to actually make it to retirement? Let alone to serve thirty years or more? Throughout an officer's career there are hundreds of ways to get fired, hurt, stressed out, fed up, or dead. If you were to have 100 new officers start at a large metropolitan police department, less than 50 would make it to twenty years of service. Less than 30 would make it to 25 years of service. Less than 10 would make it to 30 years of service. Less than 1 would make it beyond 30+ of years of service. Some would be fired, some would quit, some (actually a lot) would be injured/sick, some would go out on stress/mental health, some would die (both on and off the job). So it's not like police work is for the faint hearted to begin with. Lots of police officers are fired every year...for lots of stupid stuff and for real serious stuff. It's a difficult job to live up to. We're judged for our actions both on and off duty and can be fired for things that happen when we're not at work. The oversight and rules of engagement of American police are quite strict. I have no idea other than from tv or the movies where the impression of American police running wild comes from...it simply isn't true or accurate. When coppers screw up (on and off duty) they can/will face departmental disclipinary action, criminal prosecution, and civil law suits.
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11-26-2014, 12:13 PM
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 puelling pueman Poster Rank:171 m Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,911 Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Quoted: 2948 Post(s)
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Re: Cop Shot and Killed Standing in Front of a School
i've explained it to you various times during our discussions here... people don't trust cops because cops get filmed doing bad things to innocent people....it's not ever going to stop until cops stop hurting innocent people... it's very simple...like, very very simple....so simple a child could understand it |
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11-26-2014, 12:18 PM
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Re: Cop Shot and Killed Standing in Front of a School
Do you think the police should be held to a higher standard of emotional intelligence and impulse control? Because they are being entrusted with the leal responsibility of protecting those they serve? I do. But they arent. I feel that they should be, even if that means requiring more training, tests and pay. |
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11-26-2014, 01:18 PM
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Re: Cop Shot and Killed Standing in Front of a School
The point is that people want to make everything black-and-white, and there's lot of gray. Are there bad cops? Yep. Are there awesome cops? Yep. Is every cop ever accused of something guilty? Certainly not. Most of the time, officers actions are justified. Occasionally, they are not. But you essentially want to paint the world black and say "all cops are pigs and should die", and that their authority is just fucking it up for everyone else. You forget the fact that they are expected to protect and serve. The #1 first and foremost rule of emergency services is to stay safe. You can't help anyone if you need help yourself. A kid with a gun is a threat to safety, and the cop must neutralize that threat. Period. It didn't look like a toy, the cop didn't know it was a toy. It's not like it was a bright green water pistol - that was a beautifully-made replica of a very deadly glock. So, you will never win this argument. The "hands up don't shoot" people will never win this argument. Lethal force is often completely justified. Sometimes it isn't. This time it is. |
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11-26-2014, 01:34 PM
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Re: Cop Shot and Killed Standing in Front of a School
it's very simple...like, very very simple....so simple a child could understand it[/QUOTE] Well you know I'm not real well educated so maybe you should type slower so I'll understand. people don't trust cops because cops get filmed doing bad things to innocent people....it's not ever going to stop until cops stop hurting innocent people... People don't trust cops because cops get filmed doing bad things...WTF? Just because you get a few videos of cops from all over the world doing bad things doesn't mean we have pandemic and the police are just running wild. Sounds like to many dickhead little rebel rousers are taking too many videos when they should be working or going to school. Let do away with smart phones. Again you look at American police through the prism of the South African police. America is not a third world country and we have many safeguards for our police. Just because you watch some videos of police does not make you an expert on police work nor does it make every police officer suspect or corrupt. |
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11-26-2014, 01:42 PM
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Re: Cop Shot and Killed Standing in Front of a School
No it's not. And the fact that police officers are held accountable for off duty behavior isn't like any other job either. The statistics I quoted are straight from the Feds and are a comparison with other industries...law enforcement has the worst longevity, the most injuries/illness, and youngest death rates of 98% of other jobs in the US. Oh course, if you actually were an America that statistic might not suprise you.
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