[SDI]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

The Su-57. Superior plane but throughout the entire period of war they used the plane only a few times and at least one was destroyed and one damaged.

There are rumors the Su-57 isn't a real 5th generation jet. Its said the Suchoi is simply not as stealthy as it should be. Russian material science simply can't compete (Russias traditional weakness). It might look similar to one of the US made 5th gen strike jets....but thats about it.

This might be the explanation for its low numbers and why its not deployed. If it would be a real 5th gen stealth jet, they would use it 24/7 to wreck havoc over Ukraine. Similar as Israel uses their 5th gens to fly and strike whereever they want from Lebanon to Iran.

The T-14 Armata? Similar. I'm too lazy to check the exact numbers, but just around 30 were ever built. They are not considered battlefield worthy and so far its main purpose were Red Sqare parades. The production is totally halted in favor on more common models. They see its a similar dead end as the Su-57. On top it requires western tech imports which are currently not easy to obtain.

[Faust]

Zelensky said on the radio that he will pursue a diplomatic end to the war in 2025

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...macy-next-year

Saying there will be a diplomatic and to the war as it can not be won by Ukraine on the battlefield, could get you banned last year. So let’s hope that Zelensky does not have an account here

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Zelensky said on the radio that he will pursue a diplomatic end to the war in 2025

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...macy-next-year

Saying there will be a diplomatic and to the war as it can not be won by Ukraine on the battlefield, could get you banned last year. So let’s hope that Zelensky does not have an account here

No one was banned for that. you got banned for a range of other things that everyone knows and can read in the HOS.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

No one was banned for that. you got banned for a range of other things that everyone knows and can read in the HOS.

I believe it was “disinformation campaign” which was regarding my war projections, observation, and claims

[Roosta]

Here we go again.

When the fuck you gunna learn !

[Faust]

Anyway, a demilitarized zone further into Ukraine (meaning even more land lost compared to now for Ukraine), no NATO membership for Ukraine until at least 2045, with European peacekeeping forces patrolling the demilitarized zone (while also somewhat functioning as human shields, see the UN troops that were recently attacked by the IDF). In general this is most likely to be the 2025 peace agreement. The EU peacekeeping forces are really essential to contain any further coup or maidan revolution. (Which has a high probability of happening).

Personally I think Putin will rather want to pursue southern Ukraine to cut it off from the sea, however that would take at least 5 more years with their current strategy, and while the Russian economy did not collapse from the sanctions or special military operation, I don’t know if they would last another 5 years.

So all in all, I expect the above peace settlement to happen.


Tell yourself this though; if the above is not realistic to you, then why would Zelensky be talking about diplomacy for 2025?
If Ukraine is winning so much then they would not need to pursue any form of diplomacy. Also if the EU is so economically strong and the western weapons are so superior and there are enough Ukrainians left then they would not need to pursue any form of diplomacy either.

My conclusion is that any pro-war narrative is easily defeated by reality and this history once any treaty gets signed.

What if left in that case?
“lol Putin believed that 120.000 troops could take the entirety of Ukraine in 3 days and he failed! We actually won because he didn’t even take Ukraine and he took more than 1000 days, we really won, also only a very small amount Ukrainian soldiers died and if they did then 10 times at much Russians died so Ukraine still won ”
The above should very much be the last we will hear from anybody that realistically thought that Ukraine could have a strategic win; to claim that the temporary neutrality and the loss of certain parts is not a biggie and just an indication about how Russia lost because they didn’t achieve their primary goal of denazification and the neutrality is only temporary and the demilitarization can easily be fixed by a 2035 democrat US government and $ 500.000.000.000 from congress

If there are any other post-war coping scenarios then I would gladly like to hear them from you!

Also any suggestions for peace settlements; it can also be a variation so maybe US peacekeeping forces, or maybe no nato membership until 2035 and so on. Let’s hear it

[kellyhound]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/14...-demographics/

https://www.government.se/articles/2...nomy-examined/

[Rikbikboo]

Looks to me like Pootin is starting a bit earlier this year. Going bigger also. Same tactic as last year. Freeze them into submission. Funny how the big gas shortage didn’t materialise two years ago.

Bomb all energy infrastructure in time for winter and force them to surrender. Why would it work this year when it hasn’t the last two?

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Rikbikboo ↗

Looks to me like Pootin is starting a bit earlier this year. Going bigger also. Same tactic as last year. Freeze them into submission. Funny how the big gas shortage didn’t materialise two years ago.

Bomb all energy infrastructure in time for winter and force them to surrender. Why would it work this year when it hasn’t the last two?

Longer term plan to create conditions for the population to remove Zelensky from power. Same as the sanctions were to create economic conditions for the Russian population to remove Putin?

[Faust]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/14...-demographics/

https://www.government.se/articles/2...nomy-examined/

If those sources are true then it would make zero sense for Ukraine to negotiate peace, do you agree on that?