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#601
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02-20-2023, 06:18 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
One of your sentences sums it up. Victory is very shady element in such unprogressive society as we humans developed. Few will get richer and if that's not enough - plenty of innocent will die. I'm just kind of a folk that says it how he sees it without having any political, racial, national, religious or any other prejudice. I wanted to see what's really up, I got enough and now I'm coming back to tell you in most objective, rational possible way what my direct involment taught me. |
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#602
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02-20-2023, 06:25 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
Well, I anticipated that kind of reaction. I cannot comment on it because it's impossible to comment to things that makes no sense (I know where I was and what I did same as you know you've eaten apple yesterday). If we are going to discuss, my personal opinion is that no matter how harsh truth is - you will in the end stoop to lowest of expressions that are not even argument. What else you can say except that this is Russian propaganda with my "twist" even though it was obvious I was on the other side, and that I told numerous times I don't participate in shallow suburbian "my team vs your team" thing. I just don't go off on that. I couldn't care less who will win same as I don't care about will Nets win vs Bulls. But if I was at the game, and that game is important to the others I feel like sharing. Then again, you must be a bit devious thinking I would lie about such things. Let alone it would be stupid as fuck. But it's Internet, and what can I do about it. Who knows me on this forum knows I don't hide shit, where I live, what's my name, pics etc. if they do remember it was long time ago. |
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#603
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02-20-2023, 06:29 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
I don't really want to publicly disclose these kinds of things. In my case my country of residence gave me nothing then just pat on the back cause they are "with the allies".
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#604
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02-20-2023, 06:51 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
OK and now this is going to be my last post about that experience. I know I would be first with AMA questions but really in all honesty it's not all that dramatic as someone would think. What is dramatic though the sheer western propaganda. And I'm not talking this because "I'm pro-Russian" but because newspapers on west can literally write one thing and then the next day the opposite. Far from that Russians do not lie here and there but when I've came back I felt even more bad knowing people think one thing and I'm there, witnessing totally different stuff. Not only me, a lot of people. During scouting phases we would often see Russian leftovers (they would do the same when we would leave designated position). We were smoking some weird Korean ciggaretes I don't know even their name and Russians would left packs of Marlboro. Then we would find their newspapers "Izvjestija" or something like that. I had luck because my mother language is highly slavic so and both Ukrainians and Russians speak the same language. Anyways, Russian newspapers actually ... talk about their victims, they are self-critical, also they critique Putin but also point his good sides. I was surprised they let their soldiers to read something like that cause west told me Russians are savages and manipulators. What was and probably still is pain in the ass is the fact ordinary Ukraine soldier knows that even if he wins - his country is destroyed, in debt and he's changed. Also, what mostly brought me back, except that I earned what I wanted and experienced enough - is the fact I felt their hatred towards Russia is stronger then love for Ukraine. I was fed up listening to stories about nazism and extreme devious, almost ludacris ideas. Instead of preparing a plan and doing day by day, they wait for something miraculously to come and turn the tide of the war. I guess I was started to be irritated by sheer of utopist ideas that I felt unsafe. I mean it's war - you are always "unsafe" but still I want someone who thinks about his aim not about battle of Kursk. I even think my mom's "Oh you are back, I knew, we know you are winning" instantly de-shellshocked me cause I've seen how delirious and oblivious are people. No, Ukraine is not winning, no they are not advancing, yes Russians are bringing reinforcements and yeah of course China and Belarusia supports them. It's a known fact as UK - US - EU relations. One of fucked up things that I've seen is this drone stuff cause some prick can kill you from his office in joystick in his hand. That's not way to die and that also went trough my head. Also you don't hear them but you hear something falling without sound of actual shelling and it's creepy cause bombs bounce all around. Russians rarely did that, they hit the industrial things, economy, but I've seen where Ukraine deploy that method and it really sucks. I would be so pissed off to die like that. But then again, once I was near probably getting hit to a point that could lead to death but I WAS STILL not satisfied cause it was shrapnel. |
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#605
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02-20-2023, 06:58 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
And yeah there was this Russian soldier who's limbs were removed and instead of it someone put sticks (like 4 sticks, 2 for arms and 2 for legs) it was quite hilarious, for example that would be a gem for the site.  |
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#606
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02-20-2023, 08:09 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
Wow my bullshit alarm hasn't gone off like this in ages. I'll just file this under "things that never happened".
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#607
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02-20-2023, 08:24 PM
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 My Rank: MASTER GUNNERY SERGEANT Poster Rank:369 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,201 Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Quoted: 553 Post(s)
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
You want to preach shit about the big western propaganda machine & yet your own country participated in war crimes, rape, ethnic cleansing of generations of ppl. No wonder that you are a pro ruskie whore !  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Numerous war crimes were committed by Serbian military and Serbian paramilitary forces during the Yugoslav Wars. The crimes included massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, crimes against humanity and genocide. The International Court of Justice, cleared the Republic of Serbia of direct involvement in genocide, but found that it had failed to prevent mass killings, rapes, and ethnic cleansing. Like I said, Те ебам ! |
