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#932
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02-28-2023, 08:13 PM
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| My Rank: LANCE CORPORAL Poster Rank:3346 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 108 Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Quoted: 126 Post(s)
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
Worldwide - real world or just collective west shithole propaganda ? |
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#934
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02-28-2023, 08:51 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
Again, this insane and fucked up propaganda idea that the west and ukraine was about to attack Russia, and it had to defend by invading first. Ukraine/West invading Russia is so detatched from reality that i just wonder, how the fuck do people end up believing shit like that. Im serious. Explain please. How? I know you live inside a propaganda bubble, but still, you must have some form of sentience and ability to think. What does it take to invade Russia? Hitler tried with 4 000 000 soldiers and failed. He had a moment of surprise and brainwashed soldiers willing to fight. What did the west or Ukraine have at the Russian border before the invasion? What in the Ukrainian army resembled an invasion force? Did they have at least a meager 1 000 000 soldiers with a will to attack Moscow? Did they have a moment of surprise? Did they have 3 to 1 advantage in tanks/artillery/fighter jets? No...of course not. Not even remotely close. Even the west didn't have and still doesn't have any offensive capability to have a chance to capture Moscow(without using nukes) We aren't even talking about the will to fight. No-one....and I mean no one, not even the most hardcore Ukrainian nationalists would be willing to attack Moscow. They would take back their land and that's it. The west would not even think about thinking about considering about thinking of attacking Russia. The west is barely willing to give aid to Ukraine to keep it in the game. Now, an offensive war in Moscow would go against 99.9% of the population's will and that alone rules out any invasion into Russia. Now, in reality, if the west had gathered an army of 2000 - 3000 abrams/leopard tanks, 3 000 000+ professional soldiers, and 5000-10 000 other support vehicles next to Russian border, then...Russia would have a reason to ask questions about the motives of such military force. This is the distribution of NATO forces. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ato-countries/ Eastern Europe, Russian border: https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2...t-def-east.pdf These numbers are ridiculously small and posed no threat to Russia then...and pose no threat now. Now, you fausts, jubos and weilodes....look at these numbers.....look and try to comprehend them. Compare the reality of the miserable military condition of NATO in Europe with your führers propaganda about NATO posing a threat to Russia and "the west was about to invade us...so we had to attack first" Do you really not see that you live in an alternative reality? It's fine if you don't like the US, or its wars, but it shouldn't blind you to reality. You shouldn't default into supporting war crimes, dictators and violence against anyone...as long as the perpetrator doesn't like the US. I'll say it again, dictators need an enemy to stay in power. If they don't have an enemy...they will make one up. NATO being an enemy of Russia was completely fabricated. |
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#935
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02-28-2023, 09:30 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
Care to list the wars Biden has started? I'm not sure that I'm aware of any. As far as I know, he ended 2 conflicts that he inherited from his predecessors. Biden may be old and not the most eloquent speaker...he is still far....far more experienced than Trump, and his policies are actually geared towards helping people. Something that Trump never even considered. He served under Obama, who was the best president US has had in the last 50 years...for sure. That guy was learned, eloquent and stood up for the interests of average working people. He would have achieved far more if the senate weren't so god damn corrupt and bought up by lobby groups. Things like student loan forgiveness, Medicaid/medicare, clean energy plans, environmental protection etc etc. All things that people want and need. Trump was first to roll back environmental protection laws, he was the first to give tax breaks to himself and the 1%. He was the first to kick people off healthcare. He couldn't wait to relax regulations on mega-corporations. In short, he fucked over the people who elected him....the poorest and stupidest Americans. I'm not even gona talk about the endless scandals he had, with the porn star hush money, secret documents, shady deals with Russia in exchange for personal wealth, shady deals with Ukraine( again, asking for personal wealth in exchange for US aid ). His illegal shit is still being investigated, long after he is gone from office. Haha :D Do you see the irony here? You hate US for exerting its dominance over smaller countries...yet, you love when Russia does the same thing to its neighbors. So, the way i see it, if you love the practice of domination by force then...you should love US too...right? I'll give you a piece of reality. This is 21st century. Every country should be free to make their own decisions and live freely...without any imperial shitfuckery like "spheres of influence". If Ukraine wants to be in the "sphere of influence" of the west...then so be it. In the end, humanity will either go extinct or grow up and move beyond petty things like borders and selfish interests. Countries will unite...unions will grow...and hopefully there will be a time when everyone is united and there is no "other" side to hate. |
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#936
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02-28-2023, 10:04 PM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
They were most definitely stopped an an entire parachute infantry regiment was massacred. Definitely not apart of the plan. Russia has been plagued by communication problems and logistical problems from Day 1. The sad part is because of how corrupt the Putin regime is, everybody is terrified that the war is unwinnable. Even if Ukraine signs a peace treaty that allows the illegally annexed regions to remain apart of Russia…Russia will have lost any fear of their military, financial sanctions will continue, and the country crumbles anyways. You keep smoking the good stuff komrade. Commissar Putin will throw you out a window otherwise. |
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#938
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03-01-2023, 01:42 AM
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
Mongols. Poles. Soviet union - a complete disaster. Burnt moscow down. Made tsar to kneel like a slave he was. Eat it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuysk...te?wprov=sfti1 |
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03-01-2023, 02:04 AM
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| So Fucking Banned Poster Rank:621 Orc of Mount Gundabad Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,446 Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Quoted: 900 Post(s)
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Re: Russian/Ukraine War Discussion Thread IV
Jens Stoltenberg nominated for the Nobel peace prize. |