[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Is that different from any other officials?

Vastly. This is the same guy who said that Ukraine started the war on Russia. The response he gets is appropriate which seems to shock him... as in Russia, people just nod and agree.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Vastly. This is the same guy who said that Ukraine started the war on Russia. The response he gets is appropriate which seems to shock him... as in Russia, people just nod and agree.

I believe the Ukrainian government took the actual document down:

https://ppu.gov.ua/en/press-center/s...of-sevastopol/


Some summary is still up though:

https://ppu.gov.ua/en/press-center/s...ta-sevastopol/

Basically this is the early 2021 “how it started”.

There was blessing, arming, and funding in the west to execute that plan, which to be honest, is not going very well as of this moment (if the Pentagon and their kill ratio estimates are to be believed).


Edit: he is referring to the 2014 civil war I believe. To be honest I don’t think that many civilians were killed in those regions by the Kiev regime, probably less than die in Mexico through gang violence comparatively.

[WonderMomma]

It's been proven that Russian forces have been in Ukraine before their invasion in February 2022. And in Crimea prior to their taking it in 2014. They shouldn't have been there then and they shouldn't be there now. Again, the land they seek is UKRAINIAN TERRITORY. Just because the Soviet Union slapped their name and flag on it for 70 years doesn't mean shit. That era is over and it's time to move on.

It would be different if a majority of Ukraine wanted to go back to those times. But they don't. No matter how many citizens they coerce, a majority of Ukrainians want nothing to do with Russia. Especially now.

Unless you read minds, you don't know what he was talking about. But in either case... the response he got was appropriate. If Russia wasn't trying to take territory that doesn't belong to them, none of this would be happening. None of it.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

It would be different if a majority of Ukraine wanted to go back to those times.

We are in agreement, which is why I support referendums and democracy.

As for ‘majority of Ukraine’; I don’t think they are very happy with the path that was chosen for them, especially should the March 2022 security agreements be signed eventually. In that case I am pretty sure the current France riots would be remembered as the most peaceful European riots of 2023

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Faust's circus of alternate realities

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

We are in agreement, which is why I support referendums and democracy.

As for ‘majority of Ukraine’; I don’t think they are very happy with the path that was chosen for them, especially should the March 2022 security agreements be signed eventually. In that case I am pretty sure the current France riots would be remembered as the most peaceful European riots of 2023

You are not a mind reader or fortune teller. Nor are you a resident of Ukraine. Let's just agree to disagree. This is going nowhere, as per usual.

[Roosta]

Faust Fausting. Another masterful word spew.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Faust's circus of alternate realities

April 12, 2021

https://theowp.org/ukraine-declares-...a-from-russia/

According to Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council Decree no. 117/2021, Ukraine has committed to putting all options on the table to taking back control over the Russian annexed Crimea region. Signed on March 24th, President Zelensky has committed the country to pursue strategies that Ukrinform reports “will prepare and implement measures to ensure the de-occupation and reintegration of the peninsula.”

Although Zelensky had previously indicated that he would attempt diplomacy with Russia, this decision by his government comes as the unresolved grief in the region, originating from the 2014 Ukrainian revolution/coup, appears to be coming to a dangerous head in what looks like an almost certain war. At the date of this article, Russia has responded by mobilizing many thousands of troops near the two nation’s borders in response to Ukraine’s provocations, with a senior Russian official claiming that military action “would be the beginning of the end of Ukraine.”

[Faust]

In Mariupol, a local resident is very happy about the city being rebuilt. Such cities would eventually need Israel levels of society/security to stop terrorist threats and attacks IMO but at least they are making some progress which is great because the city was pretty much destroyed

[WonderMomma]

Wow.

Found in a trench near Bakhmut. One source jokes "where are the washing machines?"

"Russian propaganda brochures about the difference between a Russian and a Ukrainian soldiers. "













"Anatoliy Beliy, Russian actor, is against the war. He resigned from his theater and moved from Russia to Israel.

Here he explains why he cannot live in Russia."