[kellyhound]

The spokesman of the Freedom of Russia Legion Caesar expresses his opinion on Russian patriotism, the white-blue-red flag and the future of his homeland.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

The spokesman of the Freedom of Russia Legion Caesar expresses his opinion on Russian patriotism, the white-blue-red flag and the future of his homeland.

Did they ever explain the Humvees and western equipment?

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Did they ever explain the Humvees and western equipment?

They have been fighting on behalf of Ukraine this whole time. Not sure if they were contracted by the AFU but they were fighting in Bakhmut for months along side the AFU. It’s not too much of a stretch to presume that’s how they acquired them.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

The spokesman of the Freedom of Russia Legion Caesar expresses his opinion on Russian patriotism, the white-blue-red flag and the future of his homeland.

While I agree with him on what patriotism is and he said what I’ve been saying all this time ( make Russia strong economically , make it beautiful and neighbors won’t look away to the Europe side, they will want to stay esp when we are so close and speak practically same language) But I don’t see him winning Rus citizens hearts. Especially by fighting on the enemy side. Unfortunately he will always be considered as traitor. Wagners killed Rus pilots but not while fighting for the enemy and under the enemy flags. It was internal business, beginning of the revolution as we all thought. Therefor even with the death of RF pilots people supported them and still do. But this legion started its history wrong IMO. Even if they are strong enough to go on a Moscow, Rus army hates them and will fight them as the enemies.

I like that flag more tbh. If Russia will go through yet another revolution sometime soon, they better change tricolor flag and start over.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

They have been fighting on behalf of Ukraine this whole time. Not sure if they were contracted by the AFU but they were fighting in Bakhmut for months along side the AFU. It’s not too much of a stretch to presume that’s how they acquired them.

Russia has released footage of captured Humvees from the Bilhorod Raid. The Freedom of Russia Legion claims that there were no losses. These vehicles were most likely previously captured. They were lowered by crane into position, because there are no tire tracks and there is a circular disturbed dirt pattern by one of the wheels, from when it was lowered. The disturbed grass in the background shows a trail that is too large for two Humvees, so the crane approached from the rear. The scene was staged with debris from the building in the background. Building material is littered around the vehicles, but not near the building. The Humvees were dropped into what looks to be an underground shelter that used logs for bracing, not craters. The white cross that was painted on the side of the Humvee seems to have faded due to the elements.

On the driver’s side rear of one of the vehicles there appears to be damage from an explosion. Rust in the non-painted areas suggests the damage is not new. There is also not damage to the dirt area near the vehicle, which would occur from an explosion. It is clear that this vehicle was disabled long before being moved to this location.

If these vehicles crashed into position, you would also expect to see dirt on top of the hood, and damage to the front of the vehicles. All you see is broken glass from what appear to be bullets that impacted after the crash. The debris from a headlight also appears to have landed long after the crash. Again, there does not appear to be any evidence that suggest the vehicles struggles to get out, after being stuck. There is also no blood in the vehicle, which you would expect to see in any accident of this magnitude.

Additionally, on some of the vehicles, the words "For Bakhmut" are written. This occurred recently after Russians claimed to have fully captured Bakhmut. In the midst of staging or embellishing this scene, they appear to be lamenting the Bakhmut experience. When they should be celebrating, they are looking for revenge?

[Guns N' Coffee]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/u...s-ukraine.html



Based on what the New York Times is allowed to write, I don’t believe the US endgame for Ukraine is people returning to their lands

Based upon the Russian invasion, destruction of residential areas and mining campaign, I don't believe the Russian endgame for Ukraine is people returning to their lands and homes

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Guns N' Coffee ↗

Based upon the Russian invasion, destruction of residential areas and mining campaign, I don't believe the Russian endgame for Ukraine is people returning to their lands and homes

Agree 100%. Russia leaves booby traps/grenades in civilian areas when they leave any area. We've all seen the multiple photos of all that. They also have been using cluster munitions since the beginning of the invasion.

They get deadly kamikaze drones from Iran. There are reports the China has even given them equipment... although I'm not sure the details or if it's accurate.

They shell civilian areas indiscriminately and claim it was a military logistics center, barracks, or ammo depot when they see a few soldiers in fatigues. Then report after the fact that it was 200 "mercenaries" stationed there and there were mass casualties.

There was another incident last year where an apartment was shelled and Russia claimed that 50 foreign fighters were killed. I watched that story for weeks after and never saw anyone else saying it was anything but civilians. Usually, you start seeing reports in the western side of deaths that have occurred from western countries.

Long story short, they don't care about civilian casualties and according to some Russian sources, the more Ukrainians that die, the better. There's a video on here somewhere of one of Kadyrov's commanders saying as much to his unit.

This whole discussion also circles back to my "don't start none, won't be none" argument. There'd be no reason for booby traps or cluster bombs if there was no war in the first place. There's nothing better than when an opponent underestimates you when they "fuck around and find out". lol

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Ah, yes. I remember this too. They also had some trophy vehicles they picked up from Russia.

I did do a little digging... they are reported to officially be a part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the International Legion so that could explain any possession of western equipment they may have.

[Faust]

You would think this is a joke or faked but check it out for yourself

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1674956579391545344

[Guns N' Coffee]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

You would think this is a joke or faked but check it out for yourself

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1674956579391545344

I don't get the joke.

Is the joke on Putin that he got ripped off on the kinzhals?