[Faust]

“even if it's not directly related to the war and only related to the costs of living/gas/energy/inflation because of the war.”

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Thanks for quoting that person it would have otherwise escaped me

[Faust]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

I liked Faust post mostly because I encountered lately with the people who were talking about how this numbers are don’t matter. Well it’s getting serious and numbers are growing. So his post made me smile in a good way while it has some truth behind his words imo. Now when he said “I’ll wright an article about that” I start laughing I know that last part was for you, but when it’s funny, it’s funny

It’s important for everyone to know what’s going on in Europe. For a lot of citizens of EU state of economy is devastating. And while majority support Ukraine I think priorities of your own family will surpass care for another country problems. EU and US combined could potentially make some sort of payouts to the struggling citizens of EU similar to what we had here in US during pandemic. But obviously they can’t do it for too long. Maybe several to six month at best? And than what.. IMO it is important to end this war ASAP for EU. But they keep standing ground and sending more weapons. Well let’s see what happens.

We all know what will happen. a year from now everybody will be saying: “okay the country is now completely raped and destroyed much much further beyond the march 2022 Turkey peace draft, but!! At least we helped the people of Ukraine the country, and the EU. *Now, we need to ‘help’ the citizens of Iran and Taiwan!”

[marekparek]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

1. "St. Petersburg Conscript Hunt"

2. Weird video lol
"What the precise fuck is this?"
AND
"Belarusian spetsnaz seems to be a Belarusian version of Cirque du Soleil"

3. This was all that was with the post, but I'm guessing St. Petersburg conscript again.
"Peter. Graveyard"

1. volunteer hunted
2. spetznaz cheerleaders
3. another volunteer

[textex]

Originally Posted by duntez ↗

It’s important for everyone to know what’s going on in Europe. For a lot of citizens of EU state of economy is devastating. And while majority support Ukraine I think priorities of your own family will surpass care for another country problems. EU and US combined could potentially make some sort of payouts to the struggling citizens of EU similar to what we had here in US during pandemic. But obviously they can’t do it for too long. Maybe several to six month at best? And than what.. IMO it is important to end this war ASAP for EU. But they keep standing ground and sending more weapons. Well let’s see what happens.

The economic crisis isn't just about the war (Just look at the inflation in US that isn't dependent on Russian gas). It's the aftermath of kicking the can down the road since 2008. The cash printed and below zero interest-rates during the pandemic surely didn't help either. Last time the inflation was at 10% the interest rate was >10%. In EU the interest rate is now 1.5% The drought hasn't helped the Mediterranean economies either.

I guess it can go both ways, some states could possibly lean against supporting Ukraine (Italy?), but the situation might also help unify the countries against a common, external enemy that be used as a convenient scapegoat for all the economic misery.

[WonderMomma]

Wasn't sure if this was applicable to the main thread so putting it here.

"More videos with freed Ukrainians. It seems that nothing can impress anymore, but still always getting goosebumps as if for the first time..."

[Roosta]

Originally Posted by WonderMomma ↗

Wasn't sure if this was applicable to the main thread so putting it here.

"More videos with freed Ukrainians. It seems that nothing can impress anymore, but still always getting goosebumps as if for the first time..."

It won't be long before there back in circulation !

[WonderMomma]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

“even if it's not directly related to the war and only related to the costs of living/gas/energy/inflation because of the war.”

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Thanks for quoting that person it would have otherwise escaped me

EDIT: Still can't ignore me even though you have me on ignore. You're missing a lot of media by doing so but OK.

Directly related to the war = people protesting the actual war in Ukraine perpetrated by Russia.

Indirectly related to the war = people protesting high costs which may, or may not have something to do with the war taking place. Some of it could be related but some of it could be happening for other reasons. Whether that be their countries support to Ukraine when shit is so fucked up within their country, or the price of heating their homes is up dramatically due to the war which Russia perpetrated. Winter is coming.

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Those who can't think reasonably should not be laughing at others. I actually had to explain that to you which I'm happy to do, but I can't understand it for you.

[chechnya]

Originally Posted by SamuraiDes ↗

Kazakhs really are in the war with Russia? i thought only Belarus?

I don't think Kazakhstan is providing any support to Russia. Maybe they mean Kazakh Russians?

[duntez]

Originally Posted by textex ↗

The economic crisis isn't just about the war (Just look at the inflation in US that isn't dependent on Russian gas). It's the aftermath of kicking the can down the road since 2008. The cash printed and below zero interest-rates during the pandemic surely didn't help either. Last time the inflation was at 10% the interest rate was >10%. In EU the interest rate is now 1.5% The drought hasn't helped the Mediterranean economies either.

I guess it can go both ways, some states could possibly lean against supporting Ukraine (Italy?), but the situation might also help unify the countries against a common, external enemy that be used as a convenient scapegoat for all the economic misery.

I wasn't talking about US, EU only. Gas/oil is one side of the story. EU shot itself with the sanctions and than counter sanctions came in.
Here how I see it:
- While EU sold lots of goods to Russia, Russia sold to EU almost 5 times less ( during sanctions EU business was hit much harder obviously)
- Gas is one thing, but oil is as important. Gas, Diesel and jet fuel prices go up which will be followed by price increase on pretty much everything. OPEC is going to reduce oil production. No matter how Biden didn't want them to do so...probably made them even angrier with his visit
- SWIFT.. IMO EU loosing millions if not more just because Russian banks can't pay their obligations.
- Closing business in Russia = unemployment rate goes up in EU on key factories, slowing down production.
- agriculture. While EU and Ukraine were playing angels by offering UA grains to poor countries of Africa, reality is only a few if not less ships went there and not with grains but corn..everything else went to EU. If Russia will close down Odessa/Nikolaev port again, it will be nasty. Along with that Russia is a big fertilizer production state , a lot of EU countries depended on that. We could see farmers rioting in France, Italy and some other countries. What kind go harvest will be there next year is questionable..it can get very ug,ly.
- Metals. Palladium needed for the car industries, titan for aviations. Aluminum, cobalt, platinum....list is long.
- Immigrants..
- And of cause gas. Not only it matters for the temperature inside the house, but also for all kind of industries. Such as chemical, agricultural, metallurgy, mechanichal engineering .. They are all connected and interconnected.

I wouldn't look at the inflation rate so much here. Governments able to inject money into the economy, but low/mid class citizens feel the impact.

With all of the above I agree with you that economies went through some tough times since 2008 and pandemic and all and that is why I think that together with war and sanctions and everything else its crazy now.

Not sure if titans of UE economy like Germany are making good profits... Russia on another hand just by selling gas and oil will have a surplus around 300 billions this year ( yes I said this many times oh well)...and just keep in mind that Russian annual budget is aprox 600 billions? so they just made a profit 1/2 of a budget. Will EU economy and citizens come out victorious in a battle with Russian economy/propaganda/unity? IDK, but im very curious to see

EDIT: and please, dont tell me this is all Russian propaganda

[WonderMomma]

I added the photo


"Meanwhile in Moscow Ruzzia. For dubious reasons he was probably not mobilized..."