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01-03-2024, 07:05 PM
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Re: Japan Airlines and Japan Coast Guard Plane Crash and Burn at Haneda Airport
I also watched Browine's video and I think the new Jeppesen 10-9 chart shows C-5 as a 90 degree intersect to the runway, contrary to what was uploaded.
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01-03-2024, 10:08 PM
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Re: Japan Airlines and Japan Coast Guard Plane Crash and Burn at Haneda Airport
I heard additional reports that said the carbon-graphite fuselage skin was VERY resistant to fire, and that is how the passengers all managed to get off. By the time the flames were coming through the windows of the fuselage in the videos, all the passengers were already off the aircraft, across the runway and off in a grassy area. This is one of the first airliners to use a carbon-graphite main fuselage structure, and the people reported they were very impressed with how little damage there was, and how slowly the fire moved because of the flame and heat resistance of the fuselage skin. They said the aircraft crew also did a perfect job keeping control and getting the passengers off. (Flight attendants are supposed to check through a small viewport for fire in the area of that door, and if they see any, to NOT OPEN THE DOOR, and move their passengers to the next available door that can be safely opened for evacuation. I understand they only opened 3 of the main doors for the entire evacuation, the rest stayed closed.) The aircraft did eventually burn out completely, and collapsed in a heap on the runway. |
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01-03-2024, 10:38 PM
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Re: Japan Airlines and Japan Coast Guard Plane Crash and Burn at Haneda Airport
Good find. I pulled out my iPad and Foreflight confirmes that the taxiways have been renumbered. C5 is where you show it.
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01-04-2024, 01:58 PM
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Re: Japan Airlines and Japan Coast Guard Plane Crash and Burn at Haneda Airport
Interesting find, but the small stop lights build in the runway, are red , and only turn green when you got cleared by tower. now it is also possible that they were not working cos of the earthquake |
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01-05-2024, 11:51 AM
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Re: Japan Airlines and Japan Coast Guard Plane Crash and Burn at Haneda Airport
NOTAM J2253/23 for Tokyo Haneda (NJTT) dated 28 December and still current: Code: J2253/23 NOTAMN Q) RJJJ/QLRAS/IV/NBO/A/000/999/3533N13947E005 A) RJTT B) 2312271500 C) 2402211500 E) REF AIP SUP 225/23 ITEM TWY:2,3,4,5,6,7,10,11,12,13,33,38,44,54 TWY-CL-LGT FOR M1,R1,W11(BTN W AND R1)-U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR E10(BEHIND SPOT 53)-PARTLY U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR D5-U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR A(BTN W AND A2),A(INT OF W1),A1,A2(INT OF A),W1 -PARTLY U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR A16-U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR K(BTN SPOT 304 AND C),R(INT OF K)-U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR R(BTN K AND Y),R(INT OF Y)-PARTLY U/S STOP-BAR-LGT FOR C1 THRU C14-U/S <==================== TWY-CL-LGT FOR T12,T14,Q,Q1,Q2-U/S TAXIING-GUIDANCE-SIGN FOR T12,T14,Q,Q1,Q2-U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR C(INT OF C3),C(INT OF C5)-PARTLY U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR T(BTN T2 AND SPOT 909),T(INT OF T4),T(INT OF T6) -PARTLY U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR C3(INT OF RWY 16L/34R)-PARTLY U/S RAPID EXIT TWY INDICATOR LGT FOR D5-U/S RMK/THE EXACT TIME OF NEXT PERIOD WILL BE NOTIFIED BY FURTHER NOTAM NOTAM Q0032/24 for the Fukuoka FIR dated 04938Z and still current: Code: Q0032/24 NOTAMR Q0031/24 Q) RJJJ/QCEAS/I/B/E/000/999/3310N14118E999 A) RJJJ B) 2401040938 C) 2401111500 EST E) NOTO AIR-RTE-SURVEILLANCE RADAR-U/S DUE TO EARTHQUAKE There's no indication that radar issues are related to the Haneda accident. |