[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by Budd Dwyer ↗

I also report your post even if you are a mod.

A surprising tactic, given your position on authority figures overstepping their bounds. If you had half as much conviction about cops in the real world abusing their authority as you do a Moderator on the forum calling you a motherfucker, I might actually mistake you for a decent human being.

No chance of that here, though. Good for you, tough guy. Good for you. You're clearly destined for greatness.

[1776]

I can't prove he was released for COVID? the felony child abuse and rest of the rap sheet is real search brooks, rayshard to get a portion of his adult charges in that one county who knows what you would find searching other nearby areas anyway who cares he was violent scumbag that died fighting the cops.

https://www.claytoncountyga.gov/gove...t-case-inquiry

https://www.rapsheetz.com/georgia/do...xRq6bhRmbVoL6w

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by 1776 ↗

he was violent scumbag that died fighting the cops.

No. He died running from the cops. You don't get shot twice in the fucking back 'fighting with the cops.'

You're having a particularly hard time understanding this, aren't you?

And Brooks may well have been a scumbag. But anything he may have done doesn't make the pig who shot him IN THE BACK any less of one.

That said, thank you for providing the Clayton County links for further research. I have zero use for photoshopped memes that carry unsubstantiated data.

[1776]

As far as I'm concerned he was still fighting the police - firing a taser at the police = fighting. If he discarded the taser and the police knew he discarded the taser then he would just have been running but violent felon running still has to be stopped even if that means shooting them. It's not like this guy stole a hamburger because he was hungry and just ran off he was a convicted violent felon parole violator who had just beat up a police officer and was trying to use a taser on them.

(b) Sheriffs and peace officers who are appointed or employed in conformity with Chapter 8 of Title 35 may use deadly force to apprehend a suspected felon only when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury; when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect poses an immediate threat of physical violence to the officer or others; or when there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm. Nothing in this Code section shall be construed so as to restrict such sheriffs or peace officers from the use of such reasonable nondeadly force as may be necessary to apprehend and arrest a suspected felon or misdemeanant.

http://www.djj.state.ga.us/policies/...ttachmentA.pdf

[jsmlove]

Well, just a couple of hours ago, the shooting was ruled as 'homicide'. That was extremely fast!

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...040635038.html

My only gripe would be that if the person were white, would it even register a blip in the media?

Would people have felt as incensed if it were any other race? Or would they just shrug their shoulders and move on?

[fapfapfap]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

No. He died running from the cops. You don't get shot twice in the fucking back 'fighting with the cops.'

You're having a particularly hard time understanding this, aren't you?

And Brooks may well have been a scumbag. But anything he may have done doesn't make the pig who shot him IN THE BACK any less of one.

That said, thank you for providing the Clayton County links for further research. I have zero use for photoshopped memes that carry unsubstantiated data.

LMFAO. Your head is so far up your own ass its ridiculous.

He literally SHOT A TASER AT A COP. Holy shit, get a grasp on reality.

[1776]

Originally Posted by jsmlove ↗

Well, just a couple of hours ago, the shooting was ruled as 'homicide'. That was extremely fast!

Well shootings aren't natural causes of death so of course it was homicide unless you think he shot himself in the back (twice) which would make it a rather unplausible suicide.

All killings of another person are homicide doesn't matter why they were killed or the legality self defense/law enforcement/war/accident/murder homi=man cide=kill. Homicide=man was killed.

[jsmlove]

Originally Posted by 1776 ↗

All killings of another person are homicide doesn't matter why they were killed or the legality self defense/law enforcement/war/accident/murder homi=man cide=kill. Homicide=man was killed.

Thanks for clearing that up. I must have just read into it too much. You're right. I was assuming something else from that statement.

[Sinil]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

No. He died running from the cops. You don't get shot twice in the fucking back 'fighting with the cops.'

You're having a particularly hard time understanding this, aren't you?

I was actually looking for you to weigh in on this one, Vedderman. I have been talking to 'Peace Officers' I work with here in Austin, and it seems to be a split over what should happen to the officer that shot the suspect.

On one hand the discussion of 'How much of a threat is this guy (the suspect) posing to the public?' comes up. The majority of us have come to the conclusion that officers make a habit of chasing suspects too often. Most of the officers I talked to stated that they felt like they HAD to chase someone suspected of a crime, as opposed to simply letting them flee and catching them later. I think this mentality of needing to catch the bad guy may be putting officers and suspects in danger equally. Take this case for example. This officers reluctance to discontinue a pursuit put him within range of the taser (disregarding for a moment if the shoot was legal or not). Had the officers stayed with the suspects car then a DUI suspect runs home and is apprehended later. It seems like that is the direction the Austin PD is taking. A direction of respecting suspects as people that have to be protected by the officer as opposed to people that the officer has to protect themselves against. They are also talking about 'Defunding the Department'. In our case this mean APD will be highering Psychologists AND giving them patrol cars with lights and sirens !! no BS..lol. They will be available to the 911 dispatcher for calls that require mental health experts (suicide attempts, jumpers, domestic violence in some cases). So I fully agree things need to change.

Here is where my option differs from yours I think. I think what the officer did in the video was legal, but WRONG. The more I watch the video the more details I catch, like that the taser fired and 2 seconds later the officer fired his pistol at the suspects back. I think with the use of force laws the way they are now he (the officer) was acting on what he knew the law to be.


Vedderman, should we retroactively make the laws right (they do need to change) and then hang the officer out to dry (based on how we want the use of force continuum to work from now on)? That is my question to you. No, I'm not trying to be a smart ass or call you out, I legit want to know what you think.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by fapfapfap ↗

LMFAO. Your head is so far up your own ass its ridiculous.

He literally SHOT A TASER AT A COP. Holy shit, get a grasp on reality.

So? Pigs use tasers on children, on adults holding children, on elderly, on disabled people, on incapacitated subjects...what's your point?

If a pig can use a taser on an 8 year old child and not do time for it, then I fail to see how a man running full speed AWAY from the cop and aimlessly firing the taser over his shoulder justified shooting him in the fucking back with a service weapon.

But clearly you're another one who is keen on turning this country into a Police State, so what's the point in trying to get you to understand rational perspective?