[Heisenberg]

I'm sorry Bill but I have to agree with Major Bludd. After following this thread for more than a year the promised close up pictures are still not to be seen, it does seem like stalling for time. When I first read Bill's stories about what he saw on 911 I had no doubt in my mind they were true. But after all excuses and delays I am strongly doubting that Bill is in possesion about the close up pictures. And I'm not sure about his account on what he saw that day either. Bill has had no trouble with putting up other pictures on this thread but with the 911 photos this is now extremely difficult. But I hope Bill proves me wrong and delivers on his promise. If he does I will be the first one to appologize for my doubts.

[oscarxp25]

I believe he has some stuff, but he has to come to terms with it. He was there, posting this shit and talking about it for him may bring back bad memories.

There is a picture in this thread somewhere that I have never seen anywhere but here. It is just a blob of flesh and bones. It looks like a mid section of a person. There is what looks like wood dust around it. I don't know if it is from 9/11 but it looks like something that I would imagine represents what we are all waiting for.

That said... I am getting ancy too

[FavaBeans]

I think your cute

[mantara32]

Well it would be interesting for me to see these promised images as I'm a qualified digital artist and have 21 years experience in digital 2D/3D design as well as 16 years experience in Adobe Photoshop. Although I don't claim to be the world's expert on image enhancement and 'fakery' techniques, I sure am experienced enough to differentiate between what is real and what is probably fake. I also can tell the difference between editing techniques and optical vs digital zooming. If I can contribute my own observations then I wait with baited breath.

On another note... I've recently downloaded and watched all NIST FOIA high definition raw footage released on YouTube and have to say that the sound the bodies made on impact were simply mind blowing. From a distance of 5 blocks or more the impacts sounded like gunshots and from a close range, such as across the street or a block or two away the impacts sounded like someone slamming a basketball quite hard on a concrete basketball court. Even though the videos were supposedly unedited raw dumps from WABC, WCBS, WNBC, WNYW, CBC, CNN, etc camera tapes I still have my doubts as to whether all of the footage has been released. I feel that any video of bodies impacting the ground have been removed in respect of the families.

Now... let's see those close ups we've been promised

[DarkBolo]

Great picture and very grim at the same time. Thanks man.

[mantara32]

The observation deck in the lobby was at least 2 stories up from ground level. For the reddish tint on the window to be human blood you are talking about an impact that would require a sudden release of bodily fluid to a level at least 2-3 stories high. The few eyewitness descriptions of bodies releasing large sprays of fluid and organs upon impact said that the material was ejected sideways in a wide circle to a height of a few metres, not straight up into the air to the height those windows are positioned. There is no foyer on that side of the building where that window is located, so there was no roof or outside structure tall enough for the body to land and cause that much blood to spray against a window section 2 stories high in the air.

I would like to see some corresponding images or footage that clearly shows people jumping from the tower on that specific side so that I can calculate exactly how many jumpers landed below that window. Did you actually witness several people land there, or is there a video or photo somewhere that shows people jumping from directly above?

Everything is speculation until there is some kind of corroborating evidence to verify it.

[JGT4]

Oi jeezus theres a head you can see clear as hell laying on a pile of flesh right behind the fire truck to the right in the middle of the road. Zoom in, his face is obvious, you can see the eyes and nose with blood coming out. A friend of mine was right there when this happened, said the bodies exploded like water balloons when they hit and sounded like cannons going off.

[DLESS]

this GIF is one of the bodies watch to the left of the peak of the white roof you will see the body hit

[dandroid]

Originally Posted by JGT4 ↗

Oi jeezus theres a head you can see clear as hell laying on a pile of flesh right behind the fire truck to the right in the middle of the road. Zoom in, his face is obvious, you can see the eyes and nose with blood coming out. A friend of mine was right there when this happened, said the bodies exploded like water balloons when they hit and sounded like cannons going off.

Yeah...it certainly looks like a head...but then again, we tend to see what we want to see...

[mantara32]

Originally Posted by GODLESS ↗

this GIF is one of the bodies watch to the left of the peak of the white roof you will see the body hit

The raw NIST FOIA footage that clip comes from shows at least 3 of those holes appear as bodies pass through the stage roof. I'ts difficult to make out what happens to the body when it hits the stage floor, but it seems the dark spots on the stage floor are either holes in the floor or the remains of the body itself.