[Billthegravedigger]

[intre]

Thanks so much for the info, Bill. I knew you would come up with something interesting.

[Billthegravedigger]

I don't think it's exactly what you were wanting to know, but it's all I have right at the moment. I have been reading through the NIST reports, and they give specific times people jumped, from what floor, and what specific window. They counted about 104, but I still say there were more than that.

As big as those towers were, there had to be some that were not caught on tape, or film. You could hear them hit the whole time too. Even if you did not see them, you heard them.

[Billthegravedigger]

I know it sucks, badly. If anyone here is gifted at photoshop or a similar program, please see what you can do with those damn pictures please.

[MisterE]

Lol. Even I'm not fooled by those last two, Bill!

One question unrelated to these photos: Was the footage made by the couple across the street (which depicted actual impacts) erased, or was is simply omitted? I remember reading somewhere that it was edited out for respect to the vicitms. Is it possible that footage still exists in some form?

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by MisterE ↗

Lol. Even I'm not fooled by those last two, Bill!

One question unrelated to these photos: Was the footage made by the couple across the street (which depicted actual impacts) erased, or was is simply omitted? I remember reading somewhere that it was edited out for respect to the vicitms. Is it possible that footage still exists in some form?

Yes, the footage exists, but they don't want to release it. She had said somewhere she did not want to release any of it, but handed the video over to the F.B.I and prossecuters for the Zacarius Moussoui trial.

It was then posted on the Virginia Court System as eveidence. Since anyone could download it, they did and it popped up everywhere. They decided to release the version where you can hear them talking all through the video. The version provided by the court had all audio cut out, as well as certain scenes.

They went ahead and released their version because people where coming to all sorts of "conclusions", and they wanted to stop that kind of thing.

The pictures I messed with are from that video, and I tried to clear them up and add details to it, but as you can see, it did not work out so well.

That's why I said anyone skilled with that type of thing, please give it a try, because I have seen better looking dogshit that the pictures I tried to adjust.

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by Billthegravedigger ↗

Have you ever watched " How it was: the voices of 9/11 " ? To save on confusion, there are two programs called the voices of 9/11 I think, but the one I am talking about was on the National Geographic channel.

A gentleman is talking about being on the phone with a woman trapped in the North Tower. She was describing things to him and then said, " Oh, now people are jumping, what should I do ? Should I jump ? "

Can you imagine being a 911 operator, and a person asking you something like that ? Considering that she got through to the 911 operator at all on 9/11, because there were plenty who did not. I heard one call where it said we can not complete your call due to the emergency in Lower Manhattan.

Sorry people, I should have included the link to where the video is, but forgot. This p.o.s. wont let me directly embed it, so here is the link to watch it.

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/...voices-of-911/

[MisterE]

Yes, the Nat Geo is great set of recordings. I also have spent hours listening to the in flight communications from that morning. In a strange way, hearing peoples voices is eerier that the images. You can hear fear and confusion in a way that images can't convey.

BTW, I recently found this 9/11 timeling blog. Maybe you've all seen it already but worth a look.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...y_of_9/11=aa77

[MisterE]

Oh, almost forgot, thank you for clarifying that edited video footage question for me, Bill!!

[Billthegravedigger]

See what I mean about bone marrow and fatty tissue ?