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i recall this happening when i was in 7th grade. at the time i didnt think to much of it. but the past few years i'm finding this to be horrible facinating and very sad. I have more understanding bout the event now than when it happened, but out of all of it, its still the jumpers that stick in mind. While i understand they had bout 2 options in thier case this still seems more surreal than it should be.

hope that makes sense. not the best at fully explaining here but i wanted to comment on this thread, because i appreciate the time effort and hard mental insight given to explain more about the understory of things that happened than what was or has been shown.

[Dagwood]

It's incredible to think the choice they made. Forced suicide?? Or burn?

Also as tragic, a few people were killed by falling bodies. Most notably NYFD's head chaplin. (From what I remember 10 yrs ago).

[Billthegravedigger]

Photo of Fireman Danny Suhr on 9/11/01. It wasn't actually a "jumper", a man tried to climb down a rope from the South Tower and hit him. It broke his neck and damaged his head really bad, and as you can imagine, the man exploded all over the place. I think the man's leg around his knee is what hit him, but it was still enough.

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by Dagwood ↗

It's incredible to think the choice they made. Forced suicide?? Or burn?

Also as tragic, a few people were killed by falling bodies. Most notably NYFD's head chaplin. (From what I remember 10 yrs ago).

Out of everything that happened that day, the people that were trapped is what fucks with me the most by far. Some people have said, maybe they thought they would live. WTF ? Yeah, right.

The people inthe windows saw the others that jumped before they did, and even though they were that high up, they could see them explode on the concrete below. They KNEW they were going to die, but the heat and smoke became too much.

[Billthegravedigger]

Dear Vanity Fair from let's roll forums.......you think I am an outright liar huh ? You know what I think ? Go fuck yourself. That simple enough for you to understand ?

You want to make me out as a liar by saying a jumper did not cause the damage done to the handrail ? Why don't you take a look at the video I posted under the title "Look close" ? It was a person that hit that handrail, take a 175 pound person and drop them from 1,200 feet in the sky onto a handrail and see what happens you stupid bitch.

You stupid fuckers try to say there was a piping system in the towers that produced smoke and flames ? Really ? Well, what if it was just a plane that hit the building dumbfucks ? That ever cross your mind ?

All the jumpers were faked huh ? Ok, so the around thirty people I saw leap to certain death were dummies loaded with food coloring ? What the fuck is wrong with you assholes ?

I have a good idea that I have posed to people here, now it is time for you fucks. If you stupid dipshits really think it was controled demolition, and pipes running through the towers producing smoke and all of that shit, put your money where your mouth is. Scale the towers and planes, fly them in and see what happens. Or if you are really true to your convictions, and think the jumpers were faked, let's put your asses up in a partial tower and set the bitch on fire. Let's see how long it takes your fucking retared ass to jump from the flames. I tried leaving all of this on your forums, but I am not a member........thank GOD. Call me whatever you want, liar asshole whatever, I don't care. The part that pisses me off is the fact you are making a mockery of these poor people that had no choice that day. You can be a smartass and say they had a choice, jump or burn, that does not equate to a choice of life or death, just a choice of death, and how to get there.

In closing, go fuck yourself, climb on a tall building and let someone set that bitch ablaze, and when your sorry fucking asses hit the ground and explode all over the sidewalk, we will tell everyone that you were cardboard cutouts. Sorry pieces of shit. Oh yeah, if you think the jumper in that video is a flag unrolling, you are even dumber than I first thought bitch. Watch 102 minutes that changed America, they edit that part of the frame out because it was too graphic, do you really think they will blur out a flag dumbass ? Oh, that is right..........the History Channel was in on it too.

[Codemonkey3]

That post on Let's Roll was actually where I saw your testimonial and what brought me to this site. They're a bunch of delusional children who come up with a ridiculous fantasy to explain that planes hit the buildings, the buildings were subjected to intense flames and eventually collapsed. But to be honest I don't know why it's so hard to believe that compared to their hypothesis that apparently the building was empty and they had a piping system for smoke and there were only three victims, the Jumper were fake dummies with food coloring thrown out with mechanical rigs and by stunt men in safety harnesses and EVERY piece of evidence to that goes against their belief is photoshopped and all this other ridiculous shit that you only see complete nut jobs come up with.

What part of 102 Minutes That Changed America are you referring too? The part where the Jumper hits the rail or a different shot? Also Bill I sent you a private message, I'm not sure how notifications work on this site. I paid for membership purely for this thread.

I'd ignore the Let's Roll people honestly. You can't change them, they actually enjoy harassing the victims families and people who were there that day.

[Billthegravedigger]

Originally Posted by Codemonkey3 ↗

That post on Let's Roll was actually where I saw your testimonial and what brought me to this site. They're a bunch of delusional children who come up with a ridiculous fantasy to explain that planes hit the buildings, the buildings were subjected to intense flames and eventually collapsed. But to be honest I don't know why it's so hard to believe that compared to their hypothesis that apparently the building was empty and they had a piping system for smoke and there were only three victims, the Jumper were fake dummies with food coloring thrown out with mechanical rigs and by stunt men in safety harnesses and EVERY piece of evidence to that goes against their belief is photoshopped and all this other ridiculous shit that you only see complete nut jobs come up with.

What part of 102 Minutes That Changed America are you referring too? The part where the Jumper hits the rail or a different shot? Also Bill I sent you a private message, I'm not sure how notifications work on this site. I paid for membership purely for this thread.

I'd ignore the Let's Roll people honestly. You can't change them, they actually enjoy harassing the victims families and people who were there that day.

I'd like to meet them face to face, I'd give them something to harrass. A friend told me I was on let's roll, and I said bullshit. Those people are fucking retards, and he said I was on it regardless. So I checked and there it was, "plane" as day.

Vanity fair is a dumbass vain bitch. Why do some people find it easier to believe that kind of horeshit, than what really happened ? Like you said, all of the shit that they come up with is.......ludacris, yet it is easier for their dumbasses to belive that crock of shit than what really happened.

[cardsharksam]

Originally Posted by Billthegravedigger ↗

I am pissed about the way Bin Laden was killed too. I personally think they should have taken him atop the new # 1 World Trade and lit a fire under his ass, and see if he would fry or jump. He got off too easy in my book, but everyone I know tell me I am crazy, so go figure.

youre not crazy .your mad at the loss of fine american people and friends we must never forget we must never FORGIVE

[Billthegravedigger]

What part of 102 Minutes That Changed America are you referring too? The part where the Jumper hits the rail or a different shot? Also Bill I sent you a private message, I'm not sure how notifications work on this site. I paid for membership purely for this thread.

The jumper hitting the handrail. That was not the only jumper to hit that handrail though, there were three more that hit in pretty much the same spot. Another one hit the handrail that was going down the staircase between the North Tower and the Marriot Hotel. I'll talk to you, not sure what you want to know, but I'll help if I can.

[SargeistExisting]

Originally Posted by Codemonkey3 ↗

planes hit the buildings, the buildings were subjected to intense flames and eventually collapsed. But to be honest I don't know why it's so hard to believe that compared to their hypothesis

Because of a wonderful branch of science/mathematics called physics. I don't buy into all the conspiracy theories. Such as the fake jumpers that were mentioned. That shit was real as far as I'm concerned. However, it CANNOT be denied that many of the events of that day simply do not add up.