[robot]

Jeezus .... this video is almost 2 hours - can you just provide a print source?

Originally Posted by vonjo27 ↗

Barbara Honegger- Senior Journalist- U.S. Department of Defense goes in to detail about the anti-aircraft missile batteries in a videotaped interview. She goes in to DEEP DETAIL. But she must be lying, right?
This is another pretty credible documentary. Mrs. Honegger addresses it @ 45min into the video.

[vonjo27]

Originally Posted by robot ↗

I think you're letting the angle of the video deceive you. And honestly, if you slow down the video enough, you can actually see the left wing in the explosion.

That's simply not true. You don't see ANY part of an aircraft because there wasn't any. But lets suppose you do see a wing the picture. The last I checked, the wings are located in the middle of the plane, right? So if the it's the wings we see, we should also be able see the back half of the plane/tail, assuming the wings made contact with the building first and would disintegrate BEFORE the back half of the plane.
-If you can see a wing, you'd see a tail- it's that simple.
But again, there was no plane. No plane no plane no plane. I'm sorry children, you have been lied to. It's not fair, it sucks, but it's the truth. Yes, your government would do that. No, they don't value your life- they value power. It's a real tough pill to swallow, I had to do it myself, but nonetheless, 9/11 was completely orchestrated by the very people you sheep so pathetically defend. There is absolutely no evidence supporting your silly claims of terrorists and hijackings and blah blah blah. We Americans are so fucking self-centered that we actually think people in third-world countries really give a flying fuck about our "personal liberties and freedoms". You actually those same people have the desire or the means to attack Americans on their own land? They're too busy keeping us off of theirs! You sheep are so fucking pathetic. Well behaved, but fucking pathetic.

[robot]

You just don't want to believe it. You want to believe a cruise missile took a straight path in to the building perfectly aligned with the camera angle. If you watch the video enough considering the actual trajectory of the plane, you will see that wing. Moreover, the explosion is consistent w/ the trajectory and right wing folding in to the side of the plane. This is the same problem w/ folks who ONLY look at WTC 7 from the NORTH side and not the SOUTH side where all the damage was. Who's not being open minded?

Originally Posted by vonjo27 ↗

That's simply not true. You don't see ANY part of an aircraft because there wasn't any. But lets suppose you do see a wing the picture. The last I checked, the wings are located in the middle of the plane, right? So if the it's the wings we see, we should also be able see the back half of the plane/tail, assuming the wings made contact with the building first and would disintegrate BEFORE the back half of the plane.
-If you can see a wing, you'd see a tail- it's that simple.
But again, there was no plane. No plane no plane no plane. I'm sorry children, you have been lied to. It's not fair, it sucks, but it's the truth. Yes, your government would do that. No, they don't value your life- they value power. It's a real tough pill to swallow, I had to do it myself, but nonetheless, 9/11 was completely orchestrated by the very people you sheep so pathetically defend. There is absolutely no evidence supporting your silly claims of terrorists and hijackings and blah blah blah. We Americans are so fucking self-centered that we actually think people in third-world countries really give a flying fuck about our "personal liberties and freedoms". You actually those same people have the desire or the means to attack Americans on their own land? They're too busy keeping us off of theirs! You sheep are so fucking pathetic. Well behaved, but fucking pathetic.

[robot]

Oy vey .... Sonny, CONSIDER THE TRAJECTORY and then the explosion.

Originally Posted by vonjo27 ↗

That's simply not true. You don't see ANY part of an aircraft because there wasn't any. But lets suppose you do see a wing the picture. The last I checked, the wings are located in the middle of the plane, right? So if the it's the wings we see, we should also be able see the back half of the plane/tail, assuming the wings made contact with the building first and would disintegrate BEFORE the back half of the plane.
-If you can see a wing, you'd see a tail- it's that simple.
But again, there was no plane. No plane no plane no plane. I'm sorry children, you have been lied to. It's not fair, it sucks, but it's the truth. Yes, your government would do that. No, they don't value your life- they value power. It's a real tough pill to swallow, I had to do it myself, but nonetheless, 9/11 was completely orchestrated by the very people you sheep so pathetically defend. There is absolutely no evidence supporting your silly claims of terrorists and hijackings and blah blah blah. We Americans are so fucking self-centered that we actually think people in third-world countries really give a flying fuck about our "personal liberties and freedoms". You actually those same people have the desire or the means to attack Americans on their own land? They're too busy keeping us off of theirs! You sheep are so fucking pathetic. Well behaved, but fucking pathetic.

[vonjo27]

Originally Posted by robot ↗

If I'm following correctly what most are saying about the trajectory - when the right wing folded in to the plane, igniting and exploding the fuel that chain reacts across to the left wing, it makes perfect sense that the outside of the building would suffer most of the fire scarring (look at how black it is from the 8600 gallons of remaining burning fuel scarring the outside of the building).

What most are saying? Right wing folded in to the plane? That's absurd. The wing didn't fold, it's not a fucking insect. It wouldn't have folded, but it could have broken off, but then of course there would still be a wing on the grounds of the pentagon for everyone to see. It seems that initially the pictures didn't match their story, so they created a new one about wings folding. Wasn't it 8600 gallons of jet fuel that brought down a 110 story building- TWICE- in NYC on 9/11? The damage shown here seems pretty minor in comparison. As a matter of fact, there was virtually no damage to many the offices surrounding the hole where supposedly 8600 gallons of jet fuel ignited. Give it up already.

[robot]

Are people selfish, of course. We'll all leave this earth just as we came in to it - alone. Does that mean I'd leave you where I'd find you - heck yeah.

So what's your point. It's a cruel world and your just realizing that one? Dolt.

We're discussing what hit the Pentagon. I care the least about your mental malfunctions and masturbations over your desired big brother.

Originally Posted by vonjo27 ↗

But again, there was no plane. No plane no plane no plane. I'm sorry children, you have been lied to. It's not fair, it sucks, but it's the truth. Yes, your government would do that. No, they don't value your life- they value power. It's a real tough pill to swallow, I had to do it myself, but nonetheless, 9/11 was completely orchestrated by the very people you sheep so pathetically defend. There is absolutely no evidence supporting your silly claims of terrorists and hijackings and blah blah blah. We Americans are so fucking self-centered that we actually think people in third-world countries really give a flying fuck about our "personal liberties and freedoms". You actually those same people have the desire or the means to attack Americans on their own land? They're too busy keeping us off of theirs! You sheep are so fucking pathetic. Well behaved, but fucking pathetic.

[vonjo27]

Originally Posted by robot ↗

Moreover, the explosion is consistent w/ the trajectory and right wing folding in to the side of the plane. This is the same problem w/ folks who ONLY look at WTC 7 from the NORTH side and not the SOUTH side where all the damage was. Who's not being open minded?

Yes, ASSUMING IT IS FUCKING POSSIBLE FOR A WING TO FOLD!!!!!. And building 7? Who are you people? There was no damage to building 7, except for a couple fires. It fell in less than 7 seconds, from fire? But lets stay on the topic. I'm being very open minded, unlike you, that's why I am able to spot bullshit when it comes my way.

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Okay, now you're just being an arse - "you" know about planes, you post a video highlighting that flight 77 probably had 8600 gallons of fuel remaining and the wing, full of fuel, would just break off ... without exploding. And then you compare the WTC towers with the Pentagon as similar structures. You have no more credibility.

Originally Posted by vonjo27 ↗

What most are saying? Right wing folded in to the plane? That's absurd. The wing didn't fold, it's not a fucking insect. It wouldn't have folded, but it could have broken off, but then of course there would still be a wing on the grounds of the pentagon for everyone to see. It seems that initially the pictures didn't match their story, so they created a new one about wings folding. Wasn't it 8600 gallons of jet fuel that brought down a 110 story building- TWICE- in NYC on 9/11? The damage shown here seems pretty minor in comparison. As a matter of fact, there was virtually no damage to many the offices surrounding the hole where supposedly 8600 gallons of jet fuel ignited. Give it up already.

[robot]

Okay, pick the word of your choice - collapsed in to the right side of the plane, was slammed in to the right side of the plane by the impact with the wall of the Pentagon, or was folded in to the side of the plane .....

Originally Posted by vonjo27 ↗

Yes, ASSUMING IT IS FUCKING POSSIBLE FOR A WING TO FOLD!!!!!. And building 7? Who are you people? There was no damage to building 7, except for a couple fires. It fell in less than 7 seconds, from fire? But lets stay on the topic. I'm being very open minded, unlike you, that's why I am able to spot bullshit when it comes my way.

[robot]

it collapsed after 5 or 6 hours of being very unstable.

Originally Posted by vonjo27 ↗

Yes, ASSUMING IT IS FUCKING POSSIBLE FOR A WING TO FOLD!!!!!. And building 7? Who are you people? There was no damage to building 7, except for a couple fires. It fell in less than 7 seconds, from fire? But lets stay on the topic. I'm being very open minded, unlike you, that's why I am able to spot bullshit when it comes my way.