[IRISH.]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

the russians never negotiate, which is cool. too bad there's always collateral damage. Spetznas are hard as nails though

FAUST your a FUCKIN IDIOT! In other posts youve slagged the american/brit troops for killin civves! And now your sayin ,the russians are "cool", they never negotiate! It was the russians that killed most of the hostages.Just like they killed most of the hostages in the "theatre" hostage incedent.
As for spetznas bein "hard as nails" ,dont make me laugh!
Im EX-brit forces,so i can tell you for a fact,that a basic brit/amercan soldier gets more intense trainin in their first 4/6 mths, than the so called russian special forces! You only have to look at the out come of there tactics to realise that spetznas hav`nt got a FUCKIN CLUE!
SPETZNAS!.....SPECIAL NEEDS more like!

[Tyberius]

Russian policy is simple "we will rather storm the school and kill all hostages ourselves, rather then letting you blow them up and call it a victory".

[star12]

as per facto i knew people that lost kids in this mess the terrosts were cowards ...star12

[SnowBun]

The terrorists killed all adult males immediately. They also shot many children, for crying, shot adults for trying to comfort children, shot children in the back who tried to run away out of fear, stabbed an 18 month old baby girl to death viciously, gang raped many of the girls and with guns and objects so that many of them bled to death. Don't blame the russians for MOST of the deaths, WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW. But survivors told of MANY MANY people killed by terrorists, and MANY MANY gang rapes of the little girls.
FUCK THOSE PIECES OF DOG SHIT BABY RAPING TERRORISTS.
WITNESSES ALSO SAID THE TERRORISTS LAUGHED WHILE THEY RAPED THE LITTLE GIRLS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, 3 MEN AT A TIME RAPING & SODOMIZING. THEY BEAT THE LITTLE ONES AND LAUGHED WHEN THE CRINGED, PUT WATER IN FRONT OF KIDS DYING FROM THIRST AND TOLD THEM THEY WOULD BE SHOT IF THEY 'REACHED' FOR IT. And laughed and smiled and made eye contact with kids as they murdered their little friends. The kid survivors said the terrorists were brutal and sadistic and got much enjoyment out of pain of children. Made them drink their own urine, and when it greatly burned their dried out and split open lips, laughed and laughed at them when they started to cry.

FUCK THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS. Only bad thing about the terrorists all being dead (and PLEASE don't call them fucking REBELS they are baby rapers and terrorists) is that they aren't alive to torture and then kill !!!!

[MisterX]

[Tom[PL]]

long long time ago i saw videos from the siege. seems they are not available anymore or i cannot find it. Video was showing terrorists shooting from windows ,soldiers exchanging fire and at the end of the video "helicopter" (dunno the name ,russian fighter helicopter) shooting to the terrorists through building! awesome videos , can't find them :/

[TheHitman]

i seem to remember a part of that documentary about a russian sniper asking permission to shoot a girl in the leg who climbed out of the window bc the chechnans wouldve killed if they saw she escaped.

[docfr8]

Truly very sad to see innocent children killed over religeous or political bullshit. Whenever I take my little ones to school, I always pray that its going to be a good day regardless.. RIP Children...

[Adam76]

What a horrible day in human history.

[duntez]

Originally Posted by IRISH. ↗

FAUST your a FUCKIN IDIOT! In other posts youve slagged the american/brit troops for killin civves! And now your sayin ,the russians are "cool", they never negotiate! It was the russians that killed most of the hostages.Just like they killed most of the hostages in the "theatre" hostage incedent.
As for spetznas bein "hard as nails" ,dont make me laugh!
Im EX-brit forces,so i can tell you for a fact,that a basic brit/amercan soldier gets more intense trainin in their first 4/6 mths, than the so called russian special forces! You only have to look at the out come of there tactics to realise that spetznas hav`nt got a FUCKIN CLUE!
SPETZNAS!.....SPECIAL NEEDS more like!

U know nothing about Russian ALPHA and VYMPEL SPECNAZ groups. U said ex-brits Army like it means anything pff...
Russian troops were forced to storm the school, right after explosion inside the building. Kids started to run and terrorists were shooting them down in their back. ALPHA , VYMPEL Local police, parents , everyone tried to cover them, to safe them. ALPHA and VYMPEL had never EVER lost so many men in one operation - 10. They were practicing on identical building and then this explosion accrued, they had to react with only plan to save as many as they can , by putting their life’s on line of fire.


1. Andrey Turkin ( covered grenade with his body to protect the kids he was trying to evacuate)


2. Colonel Dmitry Razumovsky


3. lieutenant colonel Oleg Ilin - destroyed 2 terrorists while escorting kids out, 3rd one got him...



4. Major Roman Katasonov ( volunteered)
Was killed by machine gun while trying to get to the group of girls inside one of the classrooms.


5. Denis Pudovkin - KIA. Took 2 with him.


6. Major Mikhail Kuznetsov - saved over 20 kids


7. Oleg Loskov - carried out 2 girls and got shot


8. Major Aleksandr Perov - killed 2 terrorists and covered kids with his body.


9. Major Vyacheslav Malyarov - KIA


10. Major Andrey Velko - KIA




You have to understand that under those circumstances they couldn’t do it the other way. They needed to act or else there would be much more killed.
Kids and parents saw what this guys did, who died and who survived saving kids. It would not be possible to hide if it was absolute failure how you all say here. Last picture it says - APLHA , VYMPEL - THANK YOU FOR OUR KIDS