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02-20-2012, 06:05 AM
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Re: I Know I Am Stirring Up a Hornet's Nest Here
Hey Bill. Always a good topic for all views. My thoughts are this. I was brought up a Catholic but have fallen from the church. I will raise my son to receive his sacraments but once he is a teenager I will leave it up to him to decide. I believe there is a higher power or something more then this but not sure what that is. There are millions and millions of people who believe in a higher power but all interpret it in their own way hence so many religions. Were the American Indians wrong for believing in their Gods? Is the Protestant or Catholic view correct? I still stand by the fact that in the time of Jesus, mankind was at it's height of chaos. Along comes this man, the self proclaimed son of God who reportedly can perform miracles. He comes when many people were looking for hope in any way, shape or form. So while I believe there is some facts to the bible, I do have some doubts as to the validity of other claims. The whole Adam and Eve story when fossil records clearly show a timeline of evolution from primates to Neanderthal man to Cro Magnon to modern man. Where are the remnants of Noah's ark? It would be physically impossible for modern man, even with all our technology to create a ship or ark large enough that could hold a male and female of every species on Earth. Not to mention the different dietary needs of the animals and an army of staff to care for them. I don't have to see something to believe it but I do place a lot of weight on science and science is constantly proving evolution, how the universe was created, etc. And finally, not that this is right or wrong but say the second coming happened tomorrow. If a man came into prominence and stated that he in fact was the second coming, could perform miracles, and what not, he would be institutionalized. Given the time period, he was crucified which would be a similar sentence of today back on those times. I truly hope there is an after life. I really do as if there were not, life on Earth would lose a lot of it's meaning. But I find the bible, Catholicism and other organized religions more of a means to control the masses then a following based on truth |
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02-20-2012, 05:34 PM
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Re: I Know I Am Stirring Up a Hornet's Nest Here
I can understand that Dyno, I really can. That is why I say the Bible was changed so much over the years. Like in the New Testament, Jesus tells people there are many mansions in his Father's house. Some take that to mean that when they make it to heaven, there will be entire elegant mansions all throughout heaven. In all truth, back in Jesus' time, a mansion was actually a room built on to an existing house for when a couple became man and wife. It was not an entire house like mansion means today, it was a room. So, things like that get lost in translation, people leave things out, hell, there are entire books ommitted from the New Testament of the Bible. That is why I say I know God is real, and it is up to us to find out his purpose for us. Man will always fail us, we fail ourselves everyday, or at least I do. At the same time, I am here because he sees something in me that I don't see in myself. I should have been dead a long time ago, and would have honestly deserved it. I don't beleive a person can make it through all of the shit I have on sheer luck.  |
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02-20-2012, 05:36 PM
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Re: I Know I Am Stirring Up a Hornet's Nest Here
Shits are in chain reaction from each other  Everybody shits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad http://www.tomblock.com/published/shalom_jewishsufi.php |
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02-20-2012, 05:43 PM
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Everyone having to shit, and everyone being full of shit are two different things man.
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02-21-2012, 11:45 AM
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I love it how someone cites the "bible" as being irrational and he has never read it much less studied enough to have any rational thoughts on the topic.
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02-21-2012, 12:37 PM
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"Everybody shits". And your wiki link is a shit wiki article. It's wrong and misinforms in that it leaves out the true origins of the word Alphabet. . Alpha and Beta are not originally Greek words but are in fact borrowed from Hebrew words from which most Greek letters are borrowed. If you go back to the original Paleo Hebew Aleph Bet you will find most of the Greek Alpha-Bet. The Aleph is the word for Ox and is represented by an Ox head. Turn the capital A on its side or upside down and you now have the Paleo Hebrew version. The original Early Hebrew A was an oxhead outline with the horns attached. As it would be if you beheaded an ox. Early Hebrew  This is an example of Paleo Hebrew which predates the modern Hebrew.  Above to the top right you can see the Aleph on it's side just like a real aleph or oxhead. The original Bet is the outline of a house. Or the floor plan of a traditional Hebrew home. Below is the best chart I can find showing the evolution from ancient Early Hebrew to the modern square Hebrew script.  The name of the city of Bethleham is derived from Beyt La Ham which translates as House of Bread. Or Bread House. |
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02-21-2012, 01:14 PM
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Re: I Know I Am Stirring Up a Hornet's Nest Here
The problem with religions of the world is that their believers fail to note the difference between their ideological and doctrinal beliefs and reality. Then when their followers sometimes see some irrationality in the religion and drop out those dropouts go to the other extreme and out of ignorance bash religion in general without doing a personal study on their own. Then the critiques devolve into stereotypical generalizations based on gross ignorance.
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