Snuff Films and Children

[commondenom]

well people are getting arrested and charged with 'sexual assault' these days for slapping a girls ass back in the 1970s or charged with harrasement for making a 'lewd remark' (most are compliments) whilst tripping balls at a festival in the 1960s...

at this point it's only really old celebrities or former politicians who are getting nailed....people who have money....it's almost as if an american law firm has set up a branch here

[danielsan1971]

Originally Posted by ralucagymnast

I suffered horrendous sexual abuse from a very very young age to around age 9; I have been diagonosed with Borderline Personality Disorder/dissociative identity disorder/psychopathy. So speaking from a personal point of view, if I hadnt been fucked about with from the age of 2-9 would I have been "normal"? Psych reckons my ability to disassociate myself from the abuse is what prevented total mental collapse. My perps are dead now; doesnt matter. Its in my past. But it sure did shape part of who I am today. I have two grown up kids today, and, am a bloody good mum to them. Maybe my ability to disassociate "helped" me somehow? who knows? Would I already have had a pre-existing personality disorder? maybe not. Genetic proclivity to mental illness obviously can play a big part in that, but im not going into all that on here.

[danielsan1971]

You certainly have gone through some shit in the past. I previously worked with people with PD, and I my experience they have all suffered some abusive behaviours in the past. I think it's a developmental thing that is exacerbated by stress(abuse) or maybe something maternal that crosses the placenta from mother in pregnancy. I don't know, but many people with PD had parents that took drugs/alcohol whilst they were a foetus. You seem to managed pretty well, though that must have been tough. I mean no offence ....these are my views only.

[Morbid75]

I think people who are interested in watching these already have a personality disorder and in more cases than not they learned these deviant sexual proclivities. I worked with a behavioral psychologist who rarely used medication to treat problem behaviors. She tried to stop the behavior or find alternate ways. She said there were three types of behaviors once learned were near impossible to stop and these were lying, stealing and sexual. Now there is always resiliency which we cannot measure and people can change but for many once a pattern of behavior, especially the three mentioned above, is learned it is very difficult to change. Think about this way: How many of you know someone who lies all the time-even about stupid irrelevant shit? When you call them on it they lie to cover the lie. This would be a learned behavior and if you pay enough attention you will see that their lying increases in times of stress. It is a problem coping behavior. When it comes to pedophiles they have tried conditioning with electric shock. Showing them pictures of kids then shocking them to associate a negative response with the sexual thought. It was not successful for many of them. Some will never change the behavior. That is why a public execution would be a better deterrent for the abhorrent predators we know will not stop.

[ralucagymnast]

Originally Posted by morbid75

I think people who are interested in watching these already have a personality disorder and in more cases than not they learned these deviant sexual proclivities. I worked with a behavioral psychologist who rarely used medication to treat problem behaviors. She tried to stop the behavior or find alternate ways. She said there were three types of behaviors once learned were near impossible to stop and these were lying, stealing and sexual. Now there is always resiliency which we cannot measure and people can change but for many once a pattern of behavior, especially the three mentioned above, is learned it is very difficult to change. Think about this way: How many of you know someone who lies all the time-even about stupid irrelevant shit? When you call them on it they lie to cover the lie. This would be a learned behavior and if you pay enough attention you will see that their lying increases in times of stress. It is a problem coping behavior. When it comes to pedophiles they have tried conditioning with electric shock. Showing them pictures of kids then shocking them to associate a negative response with the sexual thought. It was not successful for many of them. Some will never change the behavior. That is why a public execution would be a better deterrent for the abhorrent predators we know will not stop.

Astute observation for sure. I agree with a hell of a lot of what you say there, especially the parts about some behaviours being so deeply ingrained into someone that they are irrecurable. You cannot "cure" paraphilias. They are, as Ive said many times, "issued" to you, as your heart, lungs, liver etc are issued to you. They are as much a part of you as your vital organs are.

[ralucagymnast]

Originally Posted by danielsan1971

You certainly have gone through some shit in the past. I previously worked with people with PD, and I my experience they have all suffered some abusive behaviours in the past. I think it's a developmental thing that is exacerbated by stress(abuse) or maybe something maternal that crosses the placenta from mother in pregnancy. I don't know, but many people with PD had parents that took drugs/alcohol whilst they were a foetus. You seem to managed pretty well, though that must have been tough. I mean no offence ....these are my views only.

Thank you; oh gosh, no offence taken!! Yeah, for some reason, Ive been able to put those things where they belong, in the past. Not everybody can, for sure.

[Morbid75]

Originally Posted by ralucagymnast

Thank you; oh gosh, no offence taken!! Yeah, for some reason, Ive been able to put those things where they belong, in the past. Not everybody can, for sure.

I think it says a lot about your resiliency for being able to put things in the past and move on. There is some research on why some people can and other cannot after experiencing brutal childhood trauma. I mean looking at Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer we see their childhoods were not that bad compared to what some children go through yet they turned out to be fucking monsters. Then people like Dave Pelzer who wrote 'A Child Called It' which details his fucking horrible childhood and a total psychopath for a mother who turn out pretty well. He actually writes self-help books as well. His mother was really horrible.

[Johnny Wadd]

Originally Posted by 30564U

I'm skeptical of the whole story. It seems like all the evidence/accusations/data are coming from non-governmental agencies (in other words...not the police) with predetermined agendas. Not saying the pedophiles aren't lurking under the bed or involved in a worldwide organization to steal, sell, and molest any hapless children that cometheir way, but having dealt with these guys for a while...I doubt it. See, this is just like the "Satanist" conspiracy craze of the early/mid 1980's...remember the McMartin Case in Los Angeles? Well...I'm thinking this is just another good old fashioned witch hunt. There are pedophiles, there are folks that kidnap kid's, there are bad guys that sell and trade children for various reasons, but I'm just not real sure that there's an organized international cabal doing all those things in the name of pedophilia. The whole story sounds hysterical and poorly researched.

These are FBI documents

















CONSPIRACY NO MORE

[ILookyLoo]

This is where they moved Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not one for conspiracy theories necessarily-but that POS is not dead. As rich as he was-dead? Nah...

[Yanni]

Originally Posted by Morbid75

looking at Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer

they were hot.
as steve says: "Grrrrrrrr, baby!"