Snuff Films and Children

[Agapeti]

SICK BASTARDS

CHILDREN in Scotland have been filmed being murdered by pedophiles in so-called ‘snuff movies’.

Two leading charities say they have spoken to victims of ritual abuse including rape and murder stretching back decades.

Kate Short, founder of Kilmarnock-based childhood abuse charity, Break the Silence, said: “In the worst cases (people) have been forced to watch the making of snuff movies. It’s the extreme, barbaric type of terror that can lead to serious personal disorder.”

Kate also said, often brothers and sisters are made to have sex with each other, and that animals are also involved.

She added: “This is something that has been going on forever and I can’t see it ever stopping.”

The claims were reported by the Scottish Sunday Express.

Scotland is the only part of the UK which doesn’t currently have an investigation into historic child sexual abuse.

Another leading charity, Dundee-based Izzy’s Promise, also backed the claims.

Project co-coordinator Joseph Lumbasi said: “Eighty per cent of people who contact us are brought up right here in Scotland. Children are born that are never registered. There is pornography, sick films. Horrific things are happening and nobody is getting caught.”

Scottish Labour’s justice spokesman Graeme Pearson MSP, said: “The Scottish government continues to duck and weave on the issue, refusing demands to hold a public inquiry to enable us all to know what is the situation here in Scotland, and how we can protect vulnerable young people.”

Police Scotland said it took all allegations of abuse “incredibly seriously”, while Education Secretary Michael Russell MSP is due to make a statement to the Scottish Parliament on Tuesday.

Deplorable: Stills show evil Shakeal Rehman luring the girl to a room to be raped

THIS is the sickening moment a brutal pedophile puts the finishing touches to grooming a vulnerable 13-year-old girl.

The bewildered runaway has already been picked up off the street by three other cunning perverts who passed her from one to the other.

Now the youngster is in the hands of evil Shakeal Rehman who kisses and hugs her at a hotel reception desk before leading her willingly away to a room.

But minutes after this CCTV footage was filmed, she was held down on the bed and raped by Rehman, 26. He then made way for Mohahammed Shapal, 22, who also had sex with her in the same room.

Last month five men were jailed for more than 27 years over the youngster’s week-long ordeal.

But the chilling truth behind her case is now revealed by one of the senior police officers who interviewed her.

Supt Matt Fenwick said: “She has properly been groomed and she believes they love her. We know she is a victim, but she doesn’t know she is a victim. She is definitely not in victim mode.

He said pedophile targets like her “find it an exciting thing to do. They are mixing with older men. They perceive they are having a good time.

And when you’re interviewing her, she’s protecting these people. She doesn’t want to get into trouble”. He said she insisted she had not slept with any men.

His words strike at the heart of the Rotherham abuse scandal in which 1,400 children were groomed and abused by Asian gangs over 16 years.

And Rotherham is where the 13-year-old’s nightmare began after she ran away from her home in Sheffield.

As police persisted with their *investigation, the scared youngster – called Marta in a BBC2 child abuse documentary to be screened on Sunday – finally told how she was picked up by a taxi driver in the South Yorkshire town.

Det Sgt Cath Ragheb, who also quizzed her, revealed: “She says she stays in the taxi driver’s bed, he’s saying to her ‘Oh you’re beautiful’, and ‘you’re lovely’ and starts kissing her. She says he’s sexually assaulted her four times.”

The cabbie left Marta at a bus stop with another man who promised to get her to Leeds. He called her “beautiful” and said he wanted to be her boyfriend.

She ended up in Bradford, and was picked up by a man called Shaz who took her home and molested her.

After he dropped her in the city centre, Rehman arrived in his car with Shapal and offered her help. He took her to the hotel and raped her.

Marta said: “He held me down so I couldn’t breathe. He raped me then. He was laughing all the time.”

She was then passed to Shapal who also assaulted her, telling her he loved her. She said Shapal was “kind’ and called her his “princess”.

DNA evidence revealed the semen of at least four men on her underwear and on bedding.

Rehman got 12 years for rape and trafficking. Shapal got four years for sexual activity with a child and *trafficking while Yaseen Amini, 37, was jailed for five and a half years for the same offences.

Usman Ali, 21, was given three years for sexual activity with a child and Bekir Rasheed, 36, got four years for *trafficking.

The Rotherham scandal broke after the BBC had filmed Marta’s case. A report said victims were ignored by social workers and police.

Deputy Chief Constable Andy Holt says lessons have been learned.

He admitted 10 years ago police would simply have returned a runaway like Marta to her parents or social services.

He said: “These days I think we recognise the phenomenon that actually sometimes the victims don’t recognise themselves,” he added.

But Marta has to live with the aftermath.

She said: “I am trying to forget what happened but I can’t. I want to warn others.”

Her father added: “My daughter will suffer her whole life.”

Sources: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/re...-being-4597107 and http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...moment-4597368

[30564U]

Bullshit

[danielsan]

So watching acts of abuse can cause personality disorders? I am not obviously supporting child abuse/paedophilia but I doubt that watching this filth would cause PD and am sure that most psychologists and psychiatrists would agree. It may cause someone with a pre-curring PD to act out, but cause PD; no. Thoughts guys?

[Pyramid_Head]

These sickos should be hanged by their balls.

[30564U]

Originally Posted by danielsan1971

So watching acts of abuse can cause personality disorders? I am not obviously supporting child abuse/paedophilia but I doubt that watching this filth would cause PD and am sure that most psychologists and psychiatrists would agree. It may cause someone with a pre-curring PD to act out, but cause PD; no. Thoughts guys?

I'm skeptical of the whole story. It seems like all the evidence/accusations/data are coming from non-governmental agencies (in other words...not the police) with predetermined agendas. Not saying the pedophiles aren't lurking under the bed or involved in a worldwide organization to steal, sell, and molest any hapless children that cometheir way, but having dealt with these guys for a while...I doubt it. See, this is just like the "Satanist" conspiracy craze of the early/mid 1980's...remember the McMartin Case in Los Angeles? Well...I'm thinking this is just another good old fashioned witch hunt. There are pedophiles, there are folks that kidnap kid's, there are bad guys that sell and trade children for various reasons, but I'm just not real sure that there's an organized international cabal doing all those things in the name of pedophilia. The whole story sounds hysterical and poorly researched.

[danielsan]

I remember seeing a news report on TV here in the UK mentioning that a group of guys of Pakistani background had been arrested for paedophilic practices. I think that was possible the origin of this article, which I agree is poorly written and sensationalist.

[ralucagymnast]

Originally Posted by danielsan1971

So watching acts of abuse can cause personality disorders? I am not obviously supporting child abuse/paedophilia but I doubt that watching this filth would cause PD and am sure that most psychologists and psychiatrists would agree. It may cause someone with a pre-curring PD to act out, but cause PD; no. Thoughts guys?

I suffered horrendous sexual abuse from a very very young age to around age 9; I have been diagonosed with Borderline Personality Disorder/dissociative identity disorder/psychopathy. So speaking from a personal point of view, if I hadnt been fucked about with from the age of 2-9 would I have been "normal"? Psych reckons my ability to disassociate myself from the abuse is what prevented total mental collapse. My perps are dead now; doesnt matter. Its in my past. But it sure did shape part of who I am today. I have two grown up kids today, and, am a bloody good mum to them. Maybe my ability to disassociate "helped" me somehow? who knows? Would I already have had a pre-existing personality disorder? maybe not. Genetic proclivity to mental illness obviously can play a big part in that, but im not going into all that on here.

[Lion-hearted Girl]

Originally Posted by danielsan1971

So watching acts of abuse can cause personality disorders? I am not obviously supporting child abuse/paedophilia but I doubt that watching this filth would cause PD and am sure that most psychologists and psychiatrists would agree. It may cause someone with a pre-curring PD to act out, but cause PD; no. Thoughts guys?

I dunno, I think I'd be messed up for live if I witnessed stuff like that.

[sunairco]

It's hard to put together what's going on on your side of the pond from news reports here in the states. It's fragmentary and begining to sound like hysteria or a witch hunt.

I caught on the local news that 60+ aging men are one of the largest growing prison segment incarcerated for past deeds. We hear about coverups, organized pedo rings of celebrities and officials. Searching on the net doesn't frame a coherent whole picture. Can someone put this entire thing into context that we can understand due to unfamilliarity with the country and those involved?

Did all this suddently explode after many of those in power that had the means to surpress it have died? Many of the accounts are implicating those accused posthoumously.

Either this was one massive conspiracy, something the media is blowing out of proportion, or this is starting to smell like another moral panic at least from what I'm able to put together.

[GregK]

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