Explosion at Manchester Arena 22 killed, 59 injured

[azdesertsnake01]

Originally Posted by shoopi

New video

Obviously NOT a professional cameraman, lol.

[kitten23]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/photo...191012408.html

Images of shrapnel and bits of the bombers backpack in this article

[bkeenan86]

If Trump is really trying to kill terrorism, can someone explain why he has just given the biggest state sponsor of terrorism the biggest arms deal in history. The very country that directly funded the biggest mass murder of Americans on 9/11, if Trump was really serous about curbing terrorism he should have sat the Saudi prince down and said your not getting jack shit until we see visible evidence that your really trying to stop the spread of terrorism.

[mmeroyale]

the phone of a surviving victim. she was using it when the bomb exploded. a screw hit it and likely deviated path and ended up hitting her nose rather than her head. she has injuries on her middle finger and nose but is stable and the doctors and her husband (who is showing the phone) believe it was the phone that helped save her because it deviated the screw's path and impact

[Bletch]

Originally Posted by Eggs&Spam

Islam needs reformation.

There's simply no other solution.

Not possible. Islam can't be reformed. I'm not a proponent of exterminating or genocide. But Islam must be contained where it belongs, in the caves of the Middle East where they can practice their savage ways and kill each other .Yes, history has proven many times that they can't get along and kill each other (Sunni vs Shia) and will eventually do the job themselves. It's in their nature.
But the priority is to keep them from destroying the civilized world. Something the liberals and the left so gladly helps them doing. The traitors and fifth column they are......

[monkeyblitzkrieg]

Originally Posted by bkeenan86

If Trump is really trying to kill terrorism, can someone explain why he has just given the biggest state sponsor of terrorism the biggest arms deal in history. The very country that directly funded the biggest mass murder of Americans on 9/11, if Trump was really serous about curbing terrorism he should have sat the Saudi prince down and said your not getting jack shit until we see visible evidence that your really trying to stop the spread of terrorism.

Many moons ago the US and various other five eyes nations did a deal with the Saudis. We take their oil, they take our technology and weapons. But we never interfere with their religion. So in short why has Trump given them the biggest arms deal in history....money talks.

This is particularly disturbing when you consider Saudis follow wahhabism. It is cruel, barbaric and is likely responsible for the spread of fundamentalist islam around the Arab world.

For further information watch two Adam Curtis documentaries;

The Bitter lake & Hypernormalisation. It's an eye opener on western hypocrisy.

The Bitter Lake:

Hypernormalisation:

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by Bletch

Not possible. Islam can't be reformed. I'm not a proponent of exterminating or genocide. But Islam must be contained where it belongs, in the caves of the Middle East where they can practice their savage ways and kill each other .Yes, history has proven many times that they can't get along and kill each other (Sunni vs Shia) and will eventually do the job themselves. It's in their nature.
But the priority is to keep them from destroying the civilized world. Something the liberals and the left so gladly helps them doing. The traitors and fifth column they are......

The Arab/moo slum DEATH CULT Ghetto CULTCHA is like a rabid dog.


Dangerous.



You simply cannot have it around in a sane prosperous decent well ordered SAFE society.

It must be removed from The West and isolated in their moo slum Third World cesspool countries as one would reasonably do with any other dangerous contagion.


Walled off.

Cut off from the Family of Man.

Left to rot.

Forgotten.

[woodsetton]

Fucking Muslims, I hate them.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by woodsetton

Fucking Muslims, I hate them.

I understand that response.



At the same time, here's some things to consider.


1.) Hate only weakens you.

2.) It's possible to be fully and completely effective, efficient and do what needs to be done without being fueled by Hate.



Just some thoughts...

[azdesertsnake01]

Originally Posted by bkeenan86

If Trump is really trying to kill terrorism, can someone explain why he has just given the biggest state sponsor of terrorism the biggest arms deal in history. The very country that directly funded the biggest mass murder of Americans on 9/11, if Trump was really serous about curbing terrorism he should have sat the Saudi prince down and said your not getting jack shit until we see visible evidence that your really trying to stop the spread of terrorism.

Yes, I think I can answer that realistically. First, the biggest state sponsor of terrorism is Iran. Not SA. The arms deal is the art of the deal. It was a genius move by Trump. Keep in mind, it is defensive in nature, not offensive.

Currently, we are SA'S security force for the most part. We protect them and watch over them like a mother. Guess who pays the costs? Us! We risk our own soldiers lives by keeping them in the area.

So, long story short, we went from paying billions out of our pockets, to getting the Saudi's to pay us billions and use their own soldiers now, to protect themselves. This is staying well within his campaign promise of getting other countries to foot the bill on their own defense.

People are really letting their emotions run away with them on this one. It was a stroke of genius. So genius, that almost no one even gets it. Lol! Now, our country will turn from losing billions, to making billions from them and adding jobs here to make the weapons.

Kushner got on the phone in front of some of the Saudi representatives and negotiated a far better deal on the weapons than the Saudi's originally thought they were going to have pay. So, they were excited about that.

It was so genius, that even the Saudi's didn't realize what happened to them, as they thanked Trump for such a great deal on the weapons. Is that a more realistic answer to your question? Lol!