Chauvin Trial

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Ianforheisman

Lots of boot licking going on in here..

Then stop.

[Johnny Alias]

Originally Posted by Desert Rat

but the judiciary is really all we have left.

The judiciary is actually the biggest problem.

The judges are the ones who makes the laws and rules everyone else has to follow. Legislators can make laws too, but only if the judges ok it.

Judges can be very corrupt even when money isn’t involved. Personal biases allow judges to bend “facts” and make them fit whatever applicable law is necessary. That’s why so few appeals are successful.

Judges usually keep their jobs for life, and it is very difficult if not almost impossible to remove them. Their case decisions are rarely reviewed by anybody at all, and even more rarely are those decisions overturned.

[Grimlyfe]

This whole fucking thing was on purpose to enrage the uneducated masses. So now what. He's "convicted" of murder then dissappears into solitary confinement and the world moves on. Actually he gets paid $10mil to dissappear in the Maldives for his contribution to communism and nobody knows any better because the media said he's in jail.
Good job human retards

[Grimlyfe]

[Johnny Alias]

- Sentencing Update -

This just in, judge in Chauvin trial gives him 22.5 years in prison. With good behaviour & time served, he’s got 15 years left to serve.

The upcoming appeal should be interesting, Chauvin mentioned something about new evidence in his address to the victim’s family.

[SkinnyFella]

Originally Posted by Johnny Alias

- Sentencing Update -

This just in, judge in Chauvin trial gives him 22.5 years in prison. With good behaviour & time served, he’s got 15 years left to serve.

The upcoming appeal should be interesting, Chauvin mentioned something about new evidence in his address to the victim’s family.

Also, one of the jurors lied about involvement in BLM protests during the last summer. Pretty much instant retrial.

[soja]

Originally Posted by SkinnyFella

Also, one of the jurors lied about involvement in BLM protests during the last summer. Pretty much instant retrial.

the fact that the venue was not moved should be instant retrial, but sometimes what should happen is not what happens. we will see.

[Desert Rat]

Originally Posted by Johnny Alias

The judiciary is actually the biggest problem.

The judges are the ones who makes the laws and rules everyone else has to follow. Legislators can make laws too, but only if the judges ok it.

Judges can be very corrupt even when money isn’t involved. Personal biases allow judges to bend “facts” and make them fit whatever applicable law is necessary. That’s why so few appeals are successful.

Judges usually keep their jobs for life, and it is very difficult if not almost impossible to remove them. Their case decisions are rarely reviewed by anybody at all, and even more rarely are those decisions overturned.

I wholeheartedly disagree. Unsure if American, because that's what my comment aims at. I'm am admittedly fairly ignorant of the judiciaries in civil law nations. In the U.S., only seven states and the feds have magistrates unaccountable to the electorate. So, life tenure does not help your argument in the least.

Now, sure, personal biases encroach into anyone's legal philosophy. That's why we have trial-by-jury, grand juries, bar associations, civil rights, separation of powers, and a number of federal, state, and local protections built into the judiciary via legislation. Simply stating that anyone's personal biases infers a crippled institution is quite dishonest.

U.S. magistrates create law through precedents. A lower court cannot simply overturn good law imposed by legislation or a higher court. And no court can supersede legislation without referencing constitutional law.

I didn't make this too complicated, hopefully you understand.

[dankboosh]

Originally Posted by soja

the fact that the venue was not moved should be instant retrial, but sometimes what should happen is not what happens. we will see.

hahahahahaha well we saw now didn't we?

Fucking moron.

[Johnny Alias]

Originally Posted by Desert Rat

I wholeheartedly disagree. Unsure if American, because that's what my comment aims at. I'm am admittedly fairly ignorant of the judiciaries in civil law nations. In the U.S., only seven states and the feds have magistrates unaccountable to the electorate. So, life tenure does not help your argument in the least.

Now, sure, personal biases encroach into anyone's legal philosophy. That's why we have trial-by-jury, grand juries, bar associations, civil rights, separation of powers, and a number of federal, state, and local protections built into the judiciary via legislation. Simply stating that anyone's personal biases infers a crippled institution is quite dishonest.

U.S. magistrates create law through precedents. A lower court cannot simply overturn good law imposed by legislation or a higher court. And no court can supersede legislation without referencing constitutional law.

I didn't make this too complicated, hopefully you understand.

I’m actually quite surprise you disagreed with my post, it may be due to what you yourself claimed was ignorance about civil law jurisdictions. I was clearly talking about common law (ie case & statutory law as interpreted by judges).

The judges on the U.S. Supreme Court are all appointed for life. They rarely even consider decisions much less overturn them.. and that’s a lot of case law being overlooked and becoming bad law.

As for judges who happen to be elected for fixed terms, that’s an even worse than being appointed for life. Elected judges will cater most to their (either dem or rep) crowd.