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I agree with you a site like Stormfront is probably more poison for the mind but Stormfront doesn't have the power, reach, and influence that CNN has.

So many people believe without a doubt that these major news stations are all telling the cold hard facts because in most people's minds it's a 'reputable source'. A major news station knowing this, uses that sort of influence to waver people's opinions whichever way they choose. It's pretty fucken scary when you think about it.
It's not some chemtrail conspiracy either, it's pretty blatant to see what they're doing.

It's all money hungry assholes promoting racial division hidden under bullshit empathy. When an event happens like this they don't see tragedy they see a ratings increase.

A bunch of rednecks shouting racist bullshit with their windows up isn't systematic racism and you know it!
The media model is designed to skew the perspective of viewers, the underlying method of influence is to make things appear worse than what they are. For most part they twist the news to take the focus off the general event, and build a story off the surrounding elements, rather they are factual or not. They tend to assert assumptions, building a even more negative view of things.

They will air an singular event into the ground, commentators will beat the opinions from every angle, and it will go on for weeks, then something else may happen that is close enough to the same subject, well then to the audience it would almost seem like the topic is happening more often than it is. Turning something into an epidemic when it's not.

They then have already build a precursor for viewer's opinion for any future events that have still yet to develop. The prime example was the last 5 or so "racially motivated" incident, that would seem to have "blended" together in such a short time, when in reality they have a pretty big time line in between, they ALL have different stories, backlines, purposes, causes etc, but everyone lumped them into one story -Racial , lets be logical here, no one is qualified enough to know for a fact what is/was on people's hearts/minds.

So to keep the ball rolling, they nationally started showing local news worthy events of racism, silly notes on doors, people being an ass signing the receipt, or some shit like that. The impact of those silly racial events is now 10 folds worse, than what they would have been had they not just followed "super racist cop wanted to kill black people" news.

This further fuels the "racism is real" crowd feeding their doomsday mentality, that the world won't move forward unless every single person in America is not only aware there are white people that dislike blacks, but that they are also somehow supposed to change their mindsets too.

Let's face it, people in America DO hate black people, but there are also people who hate the mentally challenged, there are people that hate the opposite gender, or even the same, people that hate redheads, gay, people with glasses, people's culture identity.... GET the fuck over it! Society can, and does move on with people hating other people.

Now! With all of that said, who is left to really look at systematic racism with an open, logical mind? I mean, with it being on the news every single day of some racial unjust any systematic racism topic that comes up must be true right? No point in even exploring it.

So that being said, the News focuses on doomsday, fear mongering, social unrest, and division, for ratings, political agendas, etc, which contributes to nutcases like these to come unglued.

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The media model is designed to skew the perspective of viewers, the underlying method of influence is to make things appear worse than what they are. For most part they twist the news to take the focus off the general event, and build a story off the surrounding elements, rather they are factual or not. They tend to assert assumptions, building a even more negative view of things.

They will air an singular event into the ground, commentators will beat the opinions from every angle, and it will go on for weeks, then something else may happen that is close enough to the same subject, well then to the audience it would almost seem like the topic is happening more often than it is. Turning something into an epidemic when it's not.

They then have already build a precursor for viewer's opinion for any future events that have still yet to develop. The prime example was the last 5 or so "racially motivated" incident, that would seem to have "blended" together in such a short time, when in reality they have a pretty big time line in between, they ALL have different stories, backlines, purposes, causes etc, but everyone lumped them into one story -Racial , lets be logical here, no one is qualified enough to know for a fact what is/was on people's hearts/minds.

So to keep the ball rolling, they nationally started showing local news worthy events of racism, silly notes on doors, people being an ass signing the receipt, or some shit like that. The impact of those silly racial events is now 10 folds worse, than what they would have been had they not just followed "super racist cop wanted to kill black people" news.

This further fuels the "racism is real" crowd feeding their doomsday mentality, that the world won't move forward unless every single person in America is not only aware there are white people that dislike blacks, but that they are also somehow supposed to change their mindsets too.

Let's face it, people in America DO hate black people, but there are also people who hate the mentally challenged, there are people that hate the opposite gender, or even the same, people that hate redheads, gay, people with glasses, people's culture identity.... GET the fuck over it! Society can, and does move on with people hating other people.

Now! With all of that said, who is left to really look at systematic racism with an open, logical mind? I mean, with it being on the news every single day of some racial unjust any systematic racism topic that comes up must be true right? No point in even exploring it.

So that being said, the News focuses on doomsday, fear mongering, social unrest, and division, for ratings, political agendas, etc, which contributes to nutcases like these to come unglued.
I don't agree with this at all.

People hating people for no valid reason doesn't lead to success anywhere. Its not acceptable, and shouldn't be tolerated.

And denying there's a problem doesn't help anything. There needs to be a dialogue, instead of allowing fringe groups and sites like stormfront to do all the talking.

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I don't agree with this at all.

People hating people for no valid reason doesn't lead to success anywhere. Its not acceptable, and shouldn't be tolerated.

And denying there's a problem doesn't help anything. There needs to be a dialogue, instead of allowing fringe groups and sites like stormfront to do all the talking.
You can't force people to like anyone, but you can drive people to dislike something. Pushing unreliable racism into people's faces could be the wrong approach.

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Nine less Negroes in America.

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I agree with you a site like Stormfront is probably more poison for the mind but Stormfront doesn't have the power, reach, and influence that CNN has.

So many people believe without a doubt that these major news stations are all telling the cold hard facts because in most people's minds it's a 'reputable source'. A major news station knowing this, uses that sort of influence to waver people's opinions whichever way they choose. It's pretty fucken scary when you think about it.
It's not some chemtrail conspiracy either, it's pretty blatant to see what they're doing.

It's all money hungry assholes promoting racial division hidden under bullshit empathy. When an event happens like this they don't see tragedy they see a ratings increase.

A bunch of rednecks shouting racist bullshit with their windows up isn't systematic racism and you know it!
When you realize that the Confederate flag still flies above Government buildings, that until recently there were still segregated proms in the South......... Its only recently that its not Government policy. There are generations still alive that were taught segregation was good.
How many people are alive today that voted for George Wallace? That guy held office until 1987

"In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" George Wallace

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You can't force people to like anyone, but you can drive people to dislike something. Pushing unreliable racism into people's faces could be the wrong approach.
No, but you can acknowledge that until very recently Black people had no rights, and were systemically discriminated against.

You can't tell me that in a place where George Wallace held office until 1987, everything is OK.

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No, but you can acknowledge that until very recently Black people had no rights, and were systemically discriminated against.

You can't tell me that in a place where George Wallace held office until 1987, everything is OK.
With federal mandates, Wallace was just an Iconic idiot that rednecks in trucks wanted to keep around.

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With federal mandates, Wallace was just an Iconic idiot that rednecks in trucks wanted to keep around.
He was the Governor, for about 30 years.

What does that say about the mentality of the people voting for him?

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He was the Governor, for about 30 years.

What does that say about the mentality of the people voting for him?
Considering it being Alabama, being reputable the most racist state in America next to Mississippi, logic would dictate they be in the tail end of the progress. 87 is nearly 30 years on it own. Come on down here rob, and visit Alabama, i'll give you a tour, I live close to it. You'll see how both blacks, and whites DO live, and co-exist without the whole wallace bravado you would think.

Sure, you'll find areas with whites that pass time drinking beers and making racist jokes, but then you can find blacks making honky jokes. But guess what? At the end of the week they both clock out saying "see-ya monday Tyrone/Billy-Bob" to each other.

Contrary to popular belief, blacks are not running around escaping the noose by the curls of their ass anymore.

Even Wallace had a change of heart.

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Considering it being Alabama, being reputable the most racist state in America next to Mississippi, logic would dictate they be in the tail end of the progress. 87 is nearly 30 years on it own. Come on down here rob, and visit Alabama, i'll give you a tour, I live close to it. You'll see how both blacks, and whites DO live, and co-exist without the whole wallace bravado you would think.

Sure, you'll find areas with whites that pass time drinking beers and making racist jokes, but then you can find blacks making honky jokes. But guess what? At the end of the week they both clock out saying "see-ya monday Tyrone/Billy-Bob" to each other.

Contrary to popular belief, blacks are not running around escaping the noose by the curls of their ass anymore.

Even Wallace had a change of heart.
Wallace had a change of heart? More like he was politically savvy enough to know he had to publicly say the right things to stay in office.

So you'd have me believe there is no issues down there, huh? 200 years of shit has been erased in 30-40 years?

I can say that where I live there's still a lot of animosity, and it didn't have nearly the history behind it.

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