[Neumie92]

I am usually a lurker but I find it dumb that people are flabbergasted that there are Mexican Neo-Nazis. Non-white Nazis have been a thing since the original Nazis. Look at the SS Volunteer divisions from the middle east, volunteers from places like what is now Turkmenistan.

Many ultranationalist groups in India have taken inspiration from the Nazis. Look at the RSS for example. Nazism is not exclusively white supremacy. Now were the original German Nazis white supremacists? Yes. I mean Hitler was such a racist that he thought Italians were basically black lol. Even then, the Nazis allowed non-white volunteers into the SS. Sorry for the ramble.

[Noose]

Originally Posted by Dementedcuriosity ↗

America is a fucking shithole with shit people inside of it, idgaf who’s feelings that hurt, cope. It’s a third world country with lots of money, I live here and it doesn’t make it any less true. It’s embarrassing how this happens over and over and no one does a fucking thing.

Just because people die left and right doesn't mean a country is bad, in fact it's quite the opposite sometimes.

[jstrandt]

This is specifically why I carry.

[samcws]

Primary school composition:
I have a fucking lovely family with fucking caring parents.
I have a fucking brother and cute fucking baby sister.
We live in a fucking big house in a fucking peaceful neighborhood.
I love the fucking english lesson the most as the fucking teacher is fucking funny.
I love this fucking country.

[EYESwide85]

Originally Posted by fattubbashit ↗

Americans need to see the victims in all mass shootings. The blood the gore, the pointlessness of innocents dying.
Maybe then the people will institute change.

Like what? Ban all guns? So then the innocent still dont have nor carry any firearms and criminals as well as law enforcement will be the only people who continue to stay armed. Thats a ridiculous idea, though ill concede its only my assumption to your comment as you havent actual proposed a fix to these types of problems. Usually its the mainstream suggested fix to ban all guns.

Like it or not, guns are, will be, a part of our world, period. The better decision is everyone should be familiar and comfortable carrying a firearm. "An armed society is a polite society."

Imagine if everyone was armed when this fuck showed up..... he wouldnt have gotten very far at all. Beating the train down the track, not to you personally, but to every dipshit wanting to reply to my everyone comment, no not children you fucktards.

Not too long ago, incident in a texas church was an exact real life demonstration of an armed society is a polite society. Recap; Church, parishioners, priest, gunman enters and shoots one person. 5 to 6 armed parishioners draw their conceal carry, one shoots, takes the shooter out from either behind him or a backwards slightly flank position. Ordeal is done. What could have been a church massacre was minimized to just one poor soul losing their life. Still sad but the fact remains, if these fuckoffs started seeing more planned massacres thwarted immediately by armed citizens id be willing to bet fewer of these massacres would happen if any at all.

[giterdone246]

Originally Posted by Dregen ↗

You think a cc handgun would have a chance vs a suicidal guy in full tactical gear packing an AR? Better hope you have really good aim.

Eli Dicken. Greenwood Park Mall. ABSOLUTELY No Military Or Law Enforcement Backround Kills Active Shooter in greenwood park mall 40 yards away with concealed glock 19 handgun. The shooter had at least one AR-15 rifle. Eli killed that piece of shit within 15 seconds of it happening. Even his iron sights on his glock were misaligned and yet he still shot 10 times and shot the killer with 8 rounds ending the threat. I don't know why evil like this exists but It is really good knowing sometimes good people who are complete strangers that are not trained will do whatever it takes to save people's lives with a gun carried to protect as a shield.

[Meowlacy]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Arguing against gun control puts guns into people's hands. It's that simple. If you are in favor of stricter gun control then I'm not sure what are you arguing here against?

My point was that conservative policies are the root cause of gun violence and many other problems in the US. Democrats/liberals may have their problems...sure, but they are the only ones doing at least something to solve the problem. Conservatives only try to exacerbate the problems.


Strict gun laws do just that. And again, you use the NRA propaganda phrase "only criminals will have the guns".
No. Law-abiding citizens will also have guns if they want to. Just like in all other countries.
Also, Criminals wouldn't have guns...only some of them would. A few of them. The vast majority of criminals in the rest of the world don't have guns. Noone is giving away guns for free. A criminal still needs to buy one, and it costs money that broke gangstas don't have. And if they try to get one, they raise some red flags which gives opportunity for the police to intercept them.
There is also a psychological aspect to all this. If most criminals have guns, then most criminals will try to get a gun ,because without it, they are literally outgunned. In countries where guns are not widespread, criminals don't feel such a desperate need to get access to guns. This also changes how the police solves the situation.
If you live in a country where guns are everywhere, you can't take any risks anymore. That's why police uses deadly force so often in the US. If someone is sitting in a car and reaches their hand over to the other seat...cops in the US may open fire for that. In my country, that would be unthinkable.


First, when did I claim that black/white get the same treatment? And the same treatment from whom? Cops?
The only thing I said about that black/white divide was that media shows black mass shooters the same way as they show white mass shooters. And it's true.
Have a black guy walk into a mall and kill...people of all the races...and it will be the front page news....just as when a white guy does that. Noone is gona cover it up.


Fine...now what? Conservatives don't care about black people at all. Is that better?
If you have a choice of supporting policies that improve minority lives in some ways VS supporting policies that harm minority lives in some ways...which would you prefer?
Democrats/liberals are still the only decent choice in the US. Yeah, it sad that the politics in the US is binary and they have no centrist parties. You just have to work with what you've got.


Care to share some democrats who tried to propose total gun ban bills?
I don't think anyone is even remotely hoping to push such a bill through.

Like I said, I'm not an American, so I have no bias in any way. I have no personal stake in US politics, so, unlike you, I can observe the US politics from aside and remain as objective as possible. I'm also much more protected from the political propaganda that is rampant in the US. So, in summary, there is no "usual media" that I consume.
I use apps like "Ground News" which summarizes dozens of sources onto 1 page. I countless channels on YouTube as a source. I read tens of different news sites etc.
Watching news here isn't like it is in the US, where you have 1 source...owned by one mega-corporation ( like the fox news and its parents/siblings ).


What's my solution to that?
Does there need to be a solution?
Again, you want a total binary solution. If gun control doesn't solve all the problems and result in 100% reduction in gun deaths then it's all for nothing, and not worth pursuing.

I already said it before, and i'll say it again. It's a numbers game. Every step you add between someone getting a gun will reduce gun-related deaths. It's that simple. Every step.
If someone wants to shoot children...then perhaps they can. But...can anyone who wants to shoot children do that? Just look at the recent mass shootings in schools where children were the ones doing the shooting. With strict gun laws, those kids would not have had AR's to carry out their crimes. Most of the shooters would have been too big pussies to roam the streets, back alleys and drug dens to find someone to buy an AR from. And again, at every step, cops would have had an opportunity to intercept them. Its a game of numbers. Introduce a mandatory waiting period of a few months with a psych evaluation and the gun deaths would go down by a few thousand. Require regular training to maintain a gun license...and you reduce the number of gun deaths by a few thousand more. Reduce the allowed amount of ammunition and the number goes down further. Yes, you may still have 20 000 gun-related deaths, but it wouldn't be 50 000. And, once you get the gun deaths down by half, you may ask yourself...could my brother have been among that 50% that survived now, thanks to the regulations?

Sure the dems are "doing something" but they are not doing it because they care. If they did, they would care about all guns. Not just the "MAGA" people who want to carry. Also because they are actively trying to create division. You know, If you want to carry, then you are the same as nazi domestic terrorist Trump supporters". It called "othering". I can't take them seriously when they scream "BLM" yet won't speak about the astronomical murder rate of young black men. Because it's "racist". If you allow them a restriction then eventually will take it to the extreem and exploit the shit out of it. . They did it with abortion. "Free safe and rare" turned into "abortion for any reason at any stage of pregnancy for whatever the woman and her Healthcare provider decides. That's why conservatives did their heals in.

Again, I do not want a "binary conclusion". I want a balance between allowing for personal carry for law abiding citizens and preventing guns falling into the hands of criminals.

So no ARs only hand guns? Which guns do you think should be allowed?

You have a whole lot of criticism, have any solutions?

My brother would be alive if a victim mentality violent culture thug didn't kill him. My br9ther was shot with a hand gun. Not an adult weapon. He killed 6 people with that hand gun with time to reload.

[Meowlacy]

* not an assult weapon
*brother

You are shelterd from US media if you think crime between white and black is reported equally.
Or at the very least it is reported differently. If it's a white perpretrator, that will be embellished and primary focus. If it's black perpretator, you'll get the headline but their race will be down played if mentioned at all.

[U.B.Hotch]

I just went out to eat next to that mall... Still so much going on there...

[deadhorsey]

I love that every time the media and libtards argue for gun bans/regs, sales absolutely skyrocket.

Argue, complain, become a tranny, vote Democrat…. No matter what, millions and millions of firearms are here to stay!

Keep calm, & carry on. Libtard tears cannot rust away the right to self-defense. Ever.