[SimoneFlen']

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[FuManBoobs]

Obviously he'd been casing the place for...seconds?

[DanteAntonelli]

Originally Posted by gimlet ↗

Maybe he was just scratching his balls, Latinos, Italians and all baseball players do that frequently.

Italians are latinos
It was like saying Latinos, Cubans, Hondurans, Mexicans, Brazilians and Italians

There are some "evolved" men who don't have balls to scratch though, they are the sheeple.

[DanteAntonelli]

Originally Posted by philovan ↗

The video is a bit fuzzy, but did he ever actually draw a gun? It looked to me like he stopped his attempt to draw and started backing away with his hands empty when he saw that the shop owner was armed. Probably won't matter to the law in Columbia but the shop owner would be in big trouble facing a possible murder or at least manslaughter charge in the US and several other places. (If I am correct in what I think I saw.)

A self defense allegation wouldn't fly in most courts around the globe, dude desisted and was retreating giving his back to the owner he either got shot sideways on his torso (The worst kind of torso wound) or on his back.
Almost an automatic 1st degree murder charge.

[quetza]

Originally Posted by DanteAntonelli ↗

A self defense allegation wouldn't fly in most courts around the globe, dude desisted and was retreating giving his back to the owner he either got shot sideways on his torso (The worst kind of torso wound) or on his back.
Almost an automatic 1st degree murder charge.

Dude.....come on, lighten up with strong declarations. First degree murder requires premeditation and planning, lying in wait for the victim.

This was manslaughter at most (ie no aforementioned thought....the dude showed up to rob him, he probably got scared, made a shitty decision and killed him. Didn’t plan it)

[ori01]

just like we say: no way Jose...

[docfr8]

These are the best

[mileslong]

Originally Posted by DanteAntonelli ↗

A self defense allegation wouldn't fly in most courts around the globe, dude desisted and was retreating giving his back to the owner he either got shot sideways on his torso (The worst kind of torso wound) or on his back.
Almost an automatic 1st degree murder charge.

That's a very broad stroke of the brush. It definitely doesn't fit the criteria for a 1st degree murder.

And it varies state by state in the US as what is considered self defense.

In Kansas it's defined as this -

"A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that it appears to such person and such person reasonably believes that such use of force is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's unlawful entry into or attack upon such person's dwelling, place of work or occupied vehicle."

The first guy fit that criteria in my opinion.. But let's say that I'm wrong. The guy behind guy #1 was reaching for his weapon as well. It could easily be argued that the owner was trying to hit guy #2 and took out guy #1 in the process. Guy #2 wasn't leaving until guy 1 was dead mid-air.

And again.. In Kansas at least.. if you're committing a felony (Armed robbery) and anyone dies during the felony.. the armed robbers would be charged with that death. So guy #2 would actually be charged with..... you guessed it. 1st degree murder.

Murica!

[murofhsirgo]

Then just don't do that shit. They may have been robbed last week and are totally on edge

[FavaBeans]

Nailed