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Honestly, that is a great fucking question!
the electric chair is made to be safe to bystanders. It's purpose is to kill one person only, If the current is too high, there is a risk of arcing (this is when the current ionizes the air around it and allows an electrical connection through the air, essentially allowing the charge to jump to objects that seem to be insulated under normal conditions) This type of electrical accident can not be allowed to occur whilst executing a prisoner, mainly for legal and political reasons. Because it is already difficult to justify executing people by electrocution. Imagine if an American executioner had been killed by the electrical device he was operating.. there would be fucking hell on and his family would come with a lawsuit the like of which we have never seen before. So as lethal as it is, the mechanism of execution has to also be safe. That is why we do not use railway voltages / current to execute humans. It is too dangerous.
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Just now learned India uses 220 volts for all their electrical appliances and outlets, which is why he died so instantly. I wonder how many little kids get killed in countries using that as standard voltage (i.e. Britain)?
hi there thanks for your input,
you are correct that India uses 220 volts, but this is standard, ok I know in the US you guys use more around the 110 volts range, but the only reason for this is because you guys have to transmit power over longer distances, Higher voltages means higher loss of power through heating of cables and air etc....
But in any event, the rail electrical supply is never the same as domestic supply in any country.
Railways use DC electrical supply at several thousand volts and several hundred amps/
Households use a fraction of this current, and always from an AC supply source.
In England we get 240 volts from the standard supply, and we have less deaths per 100,000 people than the USA. The absolute most important factor in saving lives is the introduction of an earth (also known as ground) circuit, which forces any short circuit to trip the entire system, switching it off immediately. This is standard in the UK which uses 3 pin power sockets to allow this. No other country in the world has yet adopted this system, though I believe the USA adopts different measures to avoid guitar amplifiers becoming lethal instruments. (such as electrical wiring regulations) ... maybe one of our American members can shed some light on the exact properties of US electrical supply.. ?
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I traveled all over India. Let me see if I can reconstruct this.

The yellow line feeds power to the truck's coolers while parked there. The guy was probably stealing power from the building.

India is a 220 v country.

The guy entered the scene toweling off, so he probably just had a shower or otherwise under the hose on a hot day. That means water on the ground at the back of the truck.

The yellow wire didnt look three strand, so not grounded. But it's thin, so not a high amp cable.

The motors on the cooling compressor and fans are probably not grounded.

He toughed the rear grab bar, so the entire truck was hot from that yellow wire.

He got a good zap, but not enough amps to smoke and fry him on the spot like we often see on DR near power and industrial machines.

He fell to the ground, and moved a little ... he might not be dead. By releasing the grab bar, it ended the flow through his body. He could easily be brain damaged, or could recover if not outright dead.
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Butters, you're grounded
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He grounded it...well...
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it really be like that huh
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That's really strange. A car or even truck battery cannot electrocute you like that, it doesn't have the voltage. I assume something more powerful was attached to the truck
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not the only country...Australia and New Zealand use 3 pin power plugs
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hi there thanks for your input,
you are correct that India uses 220 volts, but this is standard, ok I know in the US you guys use more around the 110 volts range, but the only reason for this is because you guys have to transmit power over longer distances, Higher voltages means higher loss of power through heating of cables and air etc....
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not the only country...Australia and New Zealand use 3 pin power sockets
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Pretty simplistic it seems.


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