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06-28-2026, 07:36 AM
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Re: A Man Dived into a Shallow Pool and Died Instantly
What score do I need on an ASVAB test to be accepted into Mensa? Yeah, I thought so. It is readily apparent that you have a great deal invested in appearing to be right but the simple fact of the matter is that you are not. A PhD in this case just means bullshit Piled high and Deep.
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06-28-2026, 05:17 PM
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Re: A Man Dived into a Shallow Pool and Died Instantly
😅 I don't care what you think you know, or how precisely. You're posting antiquated, heavily criticized IQ figures as though they're settled science. That's not exactly a great way to establish credibility. If you're pursuing a PhD in intelligence research, then you should know those figures have been criticized for decades because of inconsistent methodologies, cultural bias in testing, and the well documented role education, nutrition, healthcare, and socioeconomic conditions all play in cognitive test performance. As for the ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery), that's exactly the kind of oversimplification I was talking about. The ASVAB is an aptitude test used to predict success in military occupations. It certainly correlates with IQ, but it was designed as a vocational aptitude test for military selection, not as a clinical IQ test. Those are not the same thing. More importantly, your original statement was, "The lowest IQ the United States military will accept is 83." That's misleading because military enlistment doesn't work that way. The military does not administer IQ tests to applicants or set enlistment standards based on IQ. It sets minimum ASVAB requirements. Those are not the same thing, and saying they are is simply false. Then there's your "15%" claim. 15% according to whom? Which study? Which population? Which methodology? You're throwing out an incredibly specific number for one of the most debated subjects in psychology as though it's an established fact. If your PhD research supports that claim, then cite the research. Saying "it's 15%" isn't evidence. It's just an unsupported assertion until you show where that number came from. Sources: https://www.goarmy.com/how-to-join/steps/asvab https://www.officialasvab.com/applicants/faqs/ https://www.officialasvab.com/resear...y-information/ https://www.researchgate.net/publica...s_and_unknowns https://www.researchgate.net/publica...lity_worldwide https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ntal_in_Origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and...lth_of_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality
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06-28-2026, 05:24 PM
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Re: A Man Dived into a Shallow Pool and Died Instantly
Your minor league ad hominem attack and your smoke and mirrors reveal your ideology, and any person not interested in the truth who also has an ideology is simply not worth my time
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06-28-2026, 08:41 PM
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Re: A Man Dived into a Shallow Pool and Died Instantly
A reminder that just because America changes how they do something, doesn't mean the rest of the world is wrong for doing what's been standard for centuries before. "The original past tense of dive is dived; dove developed as an alternate form in the 1800s and is more common in English spoken in North America, while dived remains the preferred form elsewhere." |
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06-28-2026, 10:34 PM
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Re: A Man Dived into a Shallow Pool and Died Instantly
🤔 How ironic. You opened by invoking your PhD research as an authority and saying I was "blathering". When challenged with counter arguments, questions, and sources, you dismissed the discussion instead of defending your position. I didn't attack you, and I didn't ask you to agree with me. I challenged your claims. I did so while overlooking your condescension and repeated attempts to talk down to me, and I kept it civil. I explained why I disagreed with your IQ figures, your characterization of the ASVAB, and I backed every factual claim I made with sources. I also asked a very straightforward question about your "15%" claim. Which study? Which population? Which methodology? Rather than answer any of those questions, you chose to accuse me of having an ideology, claim I attacked you personally, and then walk away from the discussion. As someone conducting research for a doctorate in intelligence, I fully expected you'd be willing to discuss evidence. The fact you're refusing to doesn't bode well for your credibility either. If your position is supported by the evidence, citing that evidence should have been the easiest part of this discussion. That's all I asked for... but apparently backing up your own claims is not worth your time. Noted. 📝 But yes, let's move on with our lives as we're obviously not going to get anywhere.
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