[William May]

Originally Posted by gimlet ↗

$10,000 to clean up a gun suicide? I am in the wrong business. I would do it for $1000 cash, no checks or cards. Maybe a large corporation would pay $10,000 to make a problem like that go away if it happened in their building.

A new cop lady about 23 yrs old blew her brains out at her clothes locker after her first day being a cop. An old friend of mine was a cop at the same station, he cleaned it up. He said "you wouldn't believe what a .45 does to a head!". But he was kinda strange in some ways, he had no sense of smell so he did favors like cleaning out broken fridges at college after spring break...

Well, it really truly is VERY expensive to clean up murder and death scenes.
Technically, you need bio-hazard permits and training, the materials you recover are NOT supposed to go in the regular trash, and there are a TON of regulations.
Watch the movie "Sunshine Cleaning" about a woman who starts such a business, not knowing about all the actual requirements. It's a comedy, but it does get into the actual regs of crime scene cleanups.
The guy I mention had no real options. He didn't have $10K cash laying around. He would have had to refinance his home. And in the month THAT would have taken, all the mess would have been deteriorating, rotting, and smelling. So he just had to go in an clean it up. It was the worst thing he ever had to do, but he got it done.
If you are going to commit suicide, please be considerate, and do it in your backyard. One of the guys on my block did just that. Layed down in his gravel back yard, and shot himself in the head.
Once the body is taken away, all the residue is self cleaning. The house has since been sold, and they are just finishing a total rehab. New plumbing and drywall throughout the house. It must have been in terrible condition to need that much work.
If the FAA has an aircraft investigation going, and there is a lot of gore smashed around the cockpit, they need a way of cleaning that DOESN'T disturb such things as control positions, and dial indication needles. The solution is to put the area they need to investigate, on special anthills. The ants clean up everything, and then the FAA and NTSB guys can go in and do a very careful investigation without having to deal with all the gore and smell.

[gimlet]

Originally Posted by William May ↗

Well, it really truly is VERY expensive to clean up murder and death scenes.
Technically, you need bio-hazard permits and training, the materials you recover are NOT supposed to go in the regular trash, and there are a TON of regulations.
Watch the movie "Sunshine Cleaning" about a woman who starts such a business, not knowing about all the actual requirements. It's a comedy, but it does get into the actual regs of crime scene cleanups.
The guy I mention had no real options. He didn't have $10K cash laying around. He would have had to refinance his home. And in the month THAT would have taken, all the mess would have been deteriorating, rotting, and smelling. So he just had to go in an clean it up. It was the worst thing he ever had to do, but he got it done.
If you are going to commit suicide, please be considerate, and do it in your backyard. One of the guys on my block did just that. Layed down in his gravel back yard, and shot himself in the head.
Once the body is taken away, all the residue is self cleaning. The house has since been sold, and they are just finishing a total rehab. New plumbing and drywall throughout the house. It must have been in terrible condition to need that much work.
If the FAA has an aircraft investigation going, and there is a lot of gore smashed around the cockpit, they need a way of cleaning that DOESN'T disturb such things as control positions, and dial indication needles. The solution is to put the area they need to investigate, on special anthills. The ants clean up everything, and then the FAA and NTSB guys can go in and do a very careful investigation without having to deal with all the gore and smell.

Using ants to clean gore filled cockpits is one of the strangest (and sickest) things I have read on this site in 10+ years. I guess ants don't unionize or go on strike, so maybe ant workers are just the ticket for the FAA. Would the investigators even need to read cockpit indicators on modern "die by wire" aircraft with telemetry data?

[camaromike]

Originally Posted by pokerplay ↗

What happened? Was he depressed at his lack of accuracy?

[William May]

Originally Posted by gimlet ↗

Using ants to clean gore filled cockpits is one of the strangest (and sickest) things I have read on this site in 10+ years. I guess ants don't unionize or go on strike, so maybe ant workers are just the ticket for the FAA. Would the investigators even need to read cockpit indicators on modern "die by wire" aircraft with telemetry data?

No, the "Die By Wire" cockpits (I LOVE that term, never heard if before!) they can just analyze the recorded data. With digital data busses, and aircraft that communicate EVERYTHING every second of flight, to ground stations, they don't even need to have the black box anymore.
The ant thing is mostly for small aircraft accidents, where there is no black box, and there may not have been any radio communication at all, other than a transponder return, which just tells you where the aircraft disappeared off radar.
Both the FAA and the NTSB are VERY thorough in their investigations. They look at EVERYTHING, regardless of what seems obvious, because you never know what you will actually find out.
You may regard it as sick, but the anthill process is VERY clean, and VERY thorough, and disturbs absolutely NOTHING. It is the perfect way to clean up a wreck. I'm not talking about bodies, etc. I am talking about residue from human remains that needs to be removed to assist in the investigation.
If the area isn't critical, or has only needed a cursory examination (Wing spar attach points are undamaged and show no distress, fasteners are secure and in good condition, so wing failure was NOT a factor in this crash.) Then they can just hose it off. No big deal. But there ARE cases where the throttle position is critical, and many old analog instruments jam at their last position during an accident. Plus there can be problems with cracks or fasteners that separated, and these have to be looked at very closely. They don't need to just determine that a bolt broke. They need to determine WHY it broke, Which way the failure occurred, was it over an extended time? Was there corrosion? was there prior damage that created the path to failure? Was it nicked or bent by tools?
The reason it takes the FAA and the NTSB reports so long is that they are so thorough.
That is how you achieve the safest transportation mode in the world, which is aircraft.

[wenchie]

Originally Posted by JustAnotherIdiot ↗

I used to go to a range in Florida where a guy rented a gun and then off’d himself.

I was speaking to the employees later and the only feelings they had were pissed.

“The coroner only took the body, not all the big chunks. We called one of those Bio-clean up companies, but they wanted a fuck ton of money, so we all pitched in to clean that shit up! Fuckin’ selfish mother-fucker!”

Shoot Straight?

[Dr_Jackal]

Location, location, location.

[WH Bonney]

Pretty nice one-handed hop over the bench. That was pretty crazy. Nice of him to get away from everyone so he didn't hit anyone. Although he coulda done a better job of keeping the muzzle downrange.

[ordovician]

This dude hesitated but looked so pumped to get it over with jeez

[Shadolife]

This happens quite a bit at gun ranges. Why not just rent your device of destruction, walk up to your lane and BLAAM !!

[chosen192]

he probly found out he had aids