[SimoneFlen']

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[x68000]

I understand she had a knife, but when he shot her from the other side of the room did he need to shoot her 4 times

[kellyhound]

Finlayson appeared to be holding a kitchen knife and seemed to say the ex-boyfriend had attacked them, saying: “I’m about to stab him because” he had hurt her daughter.

A female deputy entered the home first, and Finlayson and her ex moved to the opposite end of the room. Shelton followed inside a moment later and fired four shots at Finlayson almost as soon as he entered.

Shelton fired at Finlayson as her daughter stood nearby. The daughter ran into the kitchen after he fired the shots and her mother collapsed on the ground. The ex screamed: “No, no, why did you shoot?”

The LASD said in a statement that Finlayson was later taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead. Her ex, whom police did not name, became “resistive”, the LASD said, and was arrested for child abuse and assault on a police officer, but was later released pending further investigation. Finlayson’s family has said that he had injured her and her daughter.

This was not Shelton’s first fatal shooting. On 11 June 2020, the deputy killed Michael Thomas, 61, also while responding to a call for potential domestic violence.

That killing was not caught on camera, but Thomas’s girlfriend later said she and Thomas had been having a verbal argument and that Thomas had tried to stop the officers from entering his home.

It was weeks after George Floyd’s murder, and his family said he had been frightened police would kill him. Thomas was unarmed and Shelton shot him in the chest. He was not prosecuted.(See pdf)

Relatives of Finlayson filed a claim against the LASD and LA county last week. Finlayson’s nine-year-old daughter, Xaisha, who was present during the shooting and could be seen in the footage, told reporters: “She was my best friend. She was always there for me. It’s very unbelievable that she’s gone and not coming back. I miss my mom.”

She also said: “The police lied that my mom was threatening them.”

Tracie Hall, Finlayson’s mother, said last week that her daughter had been working to become a nurse and an in-home care service worker. She called on Shelton to be fired and prosecuted: “He should not be allowed to roam free and continue to have a job.”

Finlayson’s killing was the latest in a string of incidents involving LA sheriffs in the Lancaster region using extreme force against Black women. In June, a deputy was filmed throwing a woman to the ground outside a store, and the LASD released footage the following month showing a deputy punching a woman in the face as she held her newborn.

In a statement on Friday, the LASD said the deputy, whom the department previously identified as Shelton, had been removed from the field as an investigation continues, in line with standard policy. The shooting would be reviewed by prosecutors, the medical examiner and the inspector general’s office, the LASD said, adding: “Every deputy-involved shooting is traumatic for all involved and each incident has its unique set of circumstances and complexities … The department will examine and evaluate every aspect of the shooting including the response, tactics, and background of the employee.”

LA county sheriff Robert Luna added in a statement: “As the comprehensive review process continues the department will gain additional insight into the incident with the goal of improving public safety.”

[HIGHTECHDUDE]

Originally Posted by x68000 ↗

I understand she had a knife, but when he shot her from the other side of the room did he need to shoot her 4 times

Unfortunately, LASD is equipped with 9mm ammo. It has more penetration but much less stopping power than the .45cal ammo that other law enforcement uses. Police protocol requires shooting at center of mass until the threat is neutralized.

From personal experience, when the target is amped up on drugs or simply a rush of adrenaline it usually takes three or more 9mm rounds to bring them down — Whereas, I've seen a grown man lifted off the ground by a single .45 to the chest at 10 yards. It's a dynamic property of hydrostatic shock.

This is what alarms those officer's carrying 9mm handguns: ⇩

[yah]

Originally Posted by HIGHTECHDUDE ↗

This is what alarms those officer's carrying 9mm handguns: ⇩

That's wild. I remember seeing this video before but I'd forgotten the crazed look on his face & how he just kept going forward while being blasted by multiple shots. I know he's being shot but I've watched it a few times & can't see where the bullets are hitting him (you can see the blood near the beltline towards the end). I love the commentary from the guy filming.

[docfr8]

Originally Posted by HIGHTECHDUDE ↗

Unfortunately, LASD is equipped with 9mm ammo. It has more penetration but much less stopping power than the .45cal ammo that other law enforcement uses. Police protocol requires shooting at center of mass until the threat is neutralized.

From personal experience, when the target is amped up on drugs or simply a rush of adrenaline it usually takes three or more 9mm rounds to bring them down — Whereas, I've seen a grown man lifted off the ground by a single .45 to the chest at 10 yards. It's a dynamic property of hydrostatic shock.

This is what alarms those officer's carrying 9mm handguns: ⇩

With personal experience, you've actually shot people with these ballistic s

[OmniJackal]

WTF he didn’t even do nothing.

[HIGHTECHDUDE]

Originally Posted by docfr8 ↗

With personal experience, you've actually shot people with these ballistic s

Yes, unfortunately I've had the experience of shooting three people. The last person was hit with a single round of .45 and went down, but survived. I do still carry a concealed 9mm for the smaller size and weight, however I only use a .45 on the job.

[Taylorboy]

Originally Posted by HIGHTECHDUDE ↗

Unfortunately, LASD is equipped with 9mm ammo. It has more penetration but much less stopping power than the .45cal ammo that other law enforcement uses. [/B]: ⇩

I double dog dare you to list the major law enforcement agencies in the USA that issue .45 caliber handguns and ammo. Do it, I need to be enlightened. And thanks to Google we can all check your work.

[Caduceus]

Originally Posted by HIGHTECHDUDE ↗

Unfortunately, LASD is equipped with 9mm ammo. It has more penetration but much less stopping power than the .45cal ammo that other law enforcement uses. Police protocol requires shooting at center of mass until the threat is neutralized.

From personal experience, when the target is amped up on drugs or simply a rush of adrenaline it usually takes three or more 9mm rounds to bring them down — Whereas, I've seen a grown man lifted off the ground by a single .45 to the chest at 10 yards. It's a dynamic property of hydrostatic shock.

This is what alarms those officer's carrying 9mm handguns: ⇩

Many studies have been performed by the government, military and law enforcement. 9mm has been proven superior for all around effectiveness. Talk to Bill Wilson at Wilson Combat. He makes nice guns. Granted that individual was shot 12 times. But, he did not fight or have the capacity for violence during that time. We've all watched hundreds of shootings on this website. All calibers do the job in the end.