[Replicators]

Originally Posted by DankStank ↗

I believe you need to reread my comment because you are putting words in my mouth. I didn't say the Vaccine "is" causing death. I said it could be, because it could!
To say that it absolutely cannot at this point is pretty ignorant.

Just to show example of the current state of the medical field for my reasoning, and not for referencing, some cancer drugs have taken 15 years to get through all three phases of clinical trial before licensing.
Cancer has been around for quite some time giving decades worth of research resulting in occasional advancements, so much in this last decade it's described as ground breaking. But 90% of clinical trials for cancer treatment have failed.
But they got it right the first time on the jab The jab had like what, 6 months? And it wasn't even licensed by the FDA, it was mandated through the PREP Act.
Typical vaccines could take 5 to 10 years of trial but this one is only a few years in and you can already say it does no harm definitively? Again, not saying it does, I'm saying it could. Even the FDA stated side affects from the first jab include things like:
-Guillain-Barre Syndrome
-Convulsions/seizures
-Stroke
-Cataplexy
-Autoimmune disease
-and even Death
So, there seems to be reason that the vaccine could cause death, and there is a rise in deaths, but absolutely none of the deaths are related to the vaccine? It's impossible to say that. I merely pointed out the increase of heart related deaths and stated how they could be related... Again, because the could.

Your seatbelt example kind of jumps around to only state one point. Because when seatbelts were first signed into law in 1955 as being required in all motor vehicles in order to be sold in the U.S. they actually were killing people, who wore them voluntarily. Those who ordinarily would have gotten a gash on their head and a concussion from being unbelted were now getting gash's on the head, concussions, ruptured spleens, fractures of the spine and sternum, as well as other alike injuries. That's why in 1968 they changed the law requiring all automobiles to have lap belts and shoulder belts. Still voluntary to wear though! Major automobile manufactures published findings stating their research. You can still read their crash test studies today. Even the NHTSA produced similar findings in the late 70's. But the requirement to actually wear seatbelts by law didn't come until the 1990's for most states, which is 100 years after the first automobile arrived in the U.S. so it hardly had anything to do with safety and everything to do with revenue generation and that's why people complained. Hell, even today New Hampshire doesn't require adults to be belted, only children and people under 18. So the American people have every right to complain about that. One could say people are still protesting belt laws to this day.

You clearly do not believe in freedom of choice! Seatbelts, the jab, just to name a few.

Are you saying that I am convincing people that the vaccine is causing heart attacks? I simply stated the possibility and relation of heart related deaths. Because it is possible to be linked. I see people state that it was the jab on here but I haven't really seen them trying to convince anybody of it but I don't read too many comments though so I don't know about that.
On the other hand, if there wasn't a swift rise in heart related deaths after 2019 I most likely would agree with you, but since there is a rise It's possible!

Just because someone doesn't support the jab doesn't mean they are antivax or right winged for fuck sake!

Yes, but over time we realized the benefits outweigh the risk in regards to seatbelt use, and this is how ALL vaccines and medications are. There is no such thing as 100% safe and anybody that expects that will find hazards in absolutely everything and the term safe shouldn't even exist. You do know that ibuprofen has warnings on the back stating it can cause a heart attack and/or stroke right? Have you ever looked on the back of any medication with it stating it is 100% safe? I wasn't saying it is 100% safe, because nothing is but people are making a mountain out of a molehill out of it though. Anecdotal reasoning is the problem here to me, people that only look at what they see and use that as a sample of what they believe is going on, like a flat earther being at a beach and only seeing a flat earth, if they backed up some they might end up seeing something completely different than what they would in such a small spectrum and the same kind of thing is going on here. All antivax lunacy is behaving just as you described,this is not a special case, ALL MEDICATION'S can in some cases be HARMFUL!!!! You ask any medical professional and they will tell you this, they don't say they are 100% safe, and you got this "Special" information they don't have, but in regards to medication the benefits outweigh the risk. Most people don't need the vaccine at all, and i was strongly against the mandates because i knew what kind of shitshow would come from it. ANYTHING "could" come from any medication, and it's because of the attention of the covid vaccines on why people are finding anything which "could" be caused from them when really without it "could" be even worse. This is why the seatbelt analogy is pretty valid, because people focused (As humans tend to) on where it went wrong and used that small tiny example as the sample of what they believed to be going on in the broad spectrum. Anecdotal reasoning is the reason science exists, science relies on empirical evidence, not anecdotes and empirical evidence fully supports that the vaccines are safe when looking at it broader. There has not been a single causal link between the vaccines and heart attacks or scd's, but only that people are equalling correlation with causation which is fallible. Unvaccinated and vaccinated are suffering heart attacks and strokes and all the fucking ills which have always been going on, but god if someone had a heart attack after the vaccine, it must be the vaccine and not natural. I wish people would actually do the fucking science instead of "It could be" when any smart person knows anything can cause a heart attack if they already have enough plaque buildup in their arteries to have one.

I knew this was going to happen though before the vaccine was even announced, i knew if there was any medication people would rebel, especially when they started mandating it. Everybody is behaving like they are a medical expert now giving bad advice and scaring people about something which "could" of saved a life because people are telling them such and such "could" happen if you do it which "could" quite honestly be one of the reasons we are seeing a uptick of heart attacks and strokes because of idiots telling them the vaccine "could" harm you too which prevents them from taking something which "could" prevent a heart attack or stroke. You ever thought about that, has that ever crossed your mind? Viral and bacterial infections increase blood pressure temporarily, and a heightened blood pressure can result in a heart attack or stroke. This is where the uptick is known to be coming from, not from what you think "could" be.

[kilyurselph]

Am I the only one who wouldn't be caught dead dancing? I swear it's one of the goofiest things human beings do.

[daveywavey10]

Originally Posted by Juztinn ↗

It's honestly absurd how many fucktards are still ranting about the "covid shot." I was a part of the moderna covid vaccine trials, was some quick and easy money. During my time in the US Navy, I got so many god damn vaccines I said "fuck it" if they're gonna pay me $2k to do what I've already done I'm down. The idea that companies want dead customers is absolutely absurd. Vaccines legitimately save lives, and live people pay bills. You are 100% delusional if you think the vaccine is designed to kill people. Dead bodies don't pay you stupid fucks.

You are the real fool

[daveywavey10]

Originally Posted by DankStank ↗

Heart disease is and has been the leading cause of deaths but it is happening a little bit more now. Maybe from the jab, maybe not. But between March 2020 and August 2022 there were more than 30,000 excess deaths involving coronary heart disease, an average of 230 a week above the expected death rate in the USA. There also appears to be a 30% spike in the number of young people having heart attacks since the jab, again may or may not be related. But what is certain is that the changing of food supplies and the jab all happened around the same time, and now this. Something is happening. No?

If you use common sense and logic like this (instead of the know it all army/navy low iq retard above) you can easily deduce the vaccine is causing problems

[daveywavey10]

Originally Posted by Replicators ↗

Yes, but over time we realized the benefits outweigh the risk in regards to seatbelt use, and this is how ALL vaccines and medications are. There is no such thing as 100% safe and anybody that expects that will find hazards in absolutely everything and the term safe shouldn't even exist. You do know that ibuprofen has warnings on the back stating it can cause a heart attack and/or stroke right? Have you ever looked on the back of any medication with it stating it is 100% safe? I wasn't saying it is 100% safe, because nothing is but people are making a mountain out of a molehill out of it though. Anecdotal reasoning is the problem here to me, people that only look at what they see and use that as a sample of what they believe is going on, like a flat earther being at a beach and only seeing a flat earth, if they backed up some they might end up seeing something completely different than what they would in such a small spectrum and the same kind of thing is going on here. All antivax lunacy is behaving just as you described,this is not a special case, ALL MEDICATION'S can in some cases be HARMFUL!!!! You ask any medical professional and they will tell you this, they don't say they are 100% safe, and you got this "Special" information they don't have, but in regards to medication the benefits outweigh the risk. Most people don't need the vaccine at all, and i was strongly against the mandates because i knew what kind of shitshow would come from it. ANYTHING "could" come from any medication, and it's because of the attention of the covid vaccines on why people are finding anything which "could" be caused from them when really without it "could" be even worse. This is why the seatbelt analogy is pretty valid, because people focused (As humans tend to) on where it went wrong and used that small tiny example as the sample of what they believed to be going on in the broad spectrum. Anecdotal reasoning is the reason science exists, science relies on empirical evidence, not anecdotes and empirical evidence fully supports that the vaccines are safe when looking at it broader. There has not been a single causal link between the vaccines and heart attacks or scd's, but only that people are equalling correlation with causation which is fallible. Unvaccinated and vaccinated are suffering heart attacks and strokes and all the fucking ills which have always been going on, but god if someone had a heart attack after the vaccine, it must be the vaccine and not natural. I wish people would actually do the fucking science instead of "It could be" when any smart person knows anything can cause a heart attack if they already have enough plaque buildup in their arteries to have one.

I knew this was going to happen though before the vaccine was even announced, i knew if there was any medication people would rebel, especially when they started mandating it. Everybody is behaving like they are a medical expert now giving bad advice and scaring people about something which "could" of saved a life because people are telling them such and such "could" happen if you do it which "could" quite honestly be one of the reasons we are seeing a uptick of heart attacks and strokes because of idiots telling them the vaccine "could" harm you too which prevents them from taking something which "could" prevent a heart attack or stroke. You ever thought about that, has that ever crossed your mind? Viral and bacterial infections increase blood pressure temporarily, and a heightened blood pressure can result in a heart attack or stroke. This is where the uptick is known to be coming from, not from what you think "could" be.

Who do you think will read all of that from a simpleton like you? You are another dunce

[Replicators]

Originally Posted by daveywavey10 ↗

Who do you think will read all of that from a simpleton like you? You are another dunce

Not idiot's like you, some people like you love their ignorance and i get it i suppose because it's subjective, idiots think smarter people are the idiot's while believing they are the smart ones.

[DankStank]

Originally Posted by Replicators ↗

Yes, but over time we realized the benefits outweigh the risk in regards to seatbelt use, and this is how ALL vaccines and medications are. There is no such thing as 100% safe and anybody that expects that will find hazards in absolutely everything and the term safe shouldn't even exist. You do know that ibuprofen has warnings on the back stating it can cause a heart attack and/or stroke right? Have you ever looked on the back of any medication with it stating it is 100% safe? I wasn't saying it is 100% safe, because nothing is but people are making a mountain out of a molehill out of it though. Anecdotal reasoning is the problem here to me, people that only look at what they see and use that as a sample of what they believe is going on, like a flat earther being at a beach and only seeing a flat earth, if they backed up some they might end up seeing something completely different than what they would in such a small spectrum and the same kind of thing is going on here. All antivax lunacy is behaving just as you described,this is not a special case, ALL MEDICATION'S can in some cases be HARMFUL!!!! You ask any medical professional and they will tell you this, they don't say they are 100% safe, and you got this "Special" information they don't have, but in regards to medication the benefits outweigh the risk. Most people don't need the vaccine at all, and i was strongly against the mandates because i knew what kind of shitshow would come from it. ANYTHING "could" come from any medication, and it's because of the attention of the covid vaccines on why people are finding anything which "could" be caused from them when really without it "could" be even worse. This is why the seatbelt analogy is pretty valid, because people focused (As humans tend to) on where it went wrong and used that small tiny example as the sample of what they believed to be going on in the broad spectrum. Anecdotal reasoning is the reason science exists, science relies on empirical evidence, not anecdotes and empirical evidence fully supports that the vaccines are safe when looking at it broader. There has not been a single causal link between the vaccines and heart attacks or scd's, but only that people are equalling correlation with causation which is fallible. Unvaccinated and vaccinated are suffering heart attacks and strokes and all the fucking ills which have always been going on, but god if someone had a heart attack after the vaccine, it must be the vaccine and not natural. I wish people would actually do the fucking science instead of "It could be" when any smart person knows anything can cause a heart attack if they already have enough plaque buildup in their arteries to have one.

I knew this was going to happen though before the vaccine was even announced, i knew if there was any medication people would rebel, especially when they started mandating it. Everybody is behaving like they are a medical expert now giving bad advice and scaring people about something which "could" of saved a life because people are telling them such and such "could" happen if you do it which "could" quite honestly be one of the reasons we are seeing a uptick of heart attacks and strokes because of idiots telling them the vaccine "could" harm you too which prevents them from taking something which "could" prevent a heart attack or stroke. You ever thought about that, has that ever crossed your mind? Viral and bacterial infections increase blood pressure temporarily, and a heightened blood pressure can result in a heart attack or stroke. This is where the uptick is known to be coming from, not from what you think "could" be.

Those meds you spoke of are taken voluntarily by the users who are informed of the product, or at least have the option to be. They are not mandated to be taken and they most likely have years if not decades worth of research behind them. Also it's usually only the sick who consumes them. I stop reading when it got repetitive and you admitted that the jab could be causing death in some. That is the same as I say too

[Replicators]

Originally Posted by DankStank ↗

Those meds you spoke of are taken voluntarily by the users who are informed of the product, or at least have the option to be. They are not mandated to be taken and they most likely have years if not decades worth of research behind them. Also it's usually only the sick who consumes them. I stop reading when it got repetitive and you admitted that the jab could be causing death in some. That is the same as I say too

That is too bad, education can be repetitive but important. Anything can kill you, you just assume only the vaccines can or something. I am against the mandates but doesn't mean im gonna tell people it could kill you when absolutely everything can. There's no such thing as 100% safe anything, water can kill you which is called water intoxication. It's like lets not drink water, it can save our lives.... but it "could" kill you! No sense mentioning it like you do without a agenda behind it.

[pyromancer555]

Originally Posted by koipin ↗

My daughter did the same thing, just without the dancing.
Covid jab 3 days earlier.
Fortunately I was at home, did CPR and she's still here.
That poor fucker didn't have a hope.

Cool story bro. Any pics or video?

[booger9]

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