[dystopian]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

More info on this one( translated using google so...it is what it is )




To me, it seems like a total overreaction senseless murder.
Its strange to see how easily modern feminist world approves murder...and how little is needed to praise women for killing someone. No joke would ever justify any physical violence...let alone murder. Any groaping/butt slap is a minor inconvenience with no real damage...and as such...should be treated/punished accordingly. A slap on a womans ass is no different than a slap on a mans face.

In this case, looks like the woman was the agressor. Not the physical agressor but a mental agressor. I.e she didn't let go of whatever happened earlier. You can see the guy walks away and is done with the shit, but then, the other woman seems to keep shouting/doing something that draws the attention of all the other employees. The interesting part is 0:40 - it looks like the other woman is also backing out of that situation. I wonder if she already had a knife in her hand at that point...and the guy was trying to disarm her. Looks like thats the case.
I guess time will tell.
Both were wrong in that situation...but to me, it seems it was the woman who was more wrong here.

‘Joke’, grabbing a woman by the ass against her will is not a ‘joke’ it’s a sexual assault and sexual dishonor is something that some Muslims will kill their women over. She was about to get married. By grabbing her ass he was literally playing with her life and she likely reacted in proportion to *that* perceived threa. This kind of mismatch of values and understandings is a risk we run when we integrate those from dissimilar cultures.

[BiscuitBumper]

Kinda looked to me like she was holding the knife sideways. Which is a pretty good idea if you're going to stab someone in the chest. I'm pretty sure the blade went right between a couple of his ribs and popped his ticker

[scorpion9]

Originally Posted by dystopian ↗

‘Joke’, grabbing a woman by the ass against her will is not a ‘joke’ it’s a sexual assault and sexual dishonor is something that some Muslims will kill their women over. She was about to get married. By grabbing her ass he was literally playing with her life and she likely reacted in proportion to *that* perceived threa. This kind of mismatch of values and understandings is a risk we run when we integrate those from dissimilar cultures.

Saying that grabbing someone by the ass or pinching them or saying "nice ass" to someone in the office is "sexual assault" then you are degrading the meaning of what an assault is.

Sexual assault implies violence, damage...wounds etc.
Imagine having a drunk customer pinch your ass and then running to your colleague to complain about being sexually assaulted and how awful it was, knowing that your colleague was brutally beaten, dragged to the woods and raped. Yeah...both were sexually assaulted. Both perpetrators deserve the same punishmnent and should have the same crime recorded on their permanent record.

Nope,
A slap on the ass is equal to a slap on the face.
Its a minor inconvenience and should be treated as such.
Its silly to treat someones ass as if it were their exposed brain.

As for the muslim values not being compatible with the western society...here i agree. There are some fundamental diferences which won't allow them to ever fully integrate.
In my country, we have very few muslims, and during the begining of the Syrian war, we received quite a few muslim refugees. It didnt take long for one of them to tie his wife to a radiator and set her on fire...for some trivial household shit.

[dystopian]

Originally Posted by scorpion9 ↗

Saying that grabbing someone by the ass or pinching them or saying "nice ass" to someone in the office is "sexual assault" then you are degrading the meaning of what an assault is.

Sexual assault implies violence, damage...wounds etc.
Imagine having a drunk customer pinch your ass and then running to your colleague to complain about being sexually assaulted and how awful it was, knowing that your colleague was brutally beaten, dragged to the woods and raped. Yeah...both were sexually assaulted. Both perpetrators deserve the same punishmnent and should have the same crime recorded on their permanent record.

Nope,
A slap on the ass is equal to a slap on the face.
Its a minor inconvenience and should be treated as such.
Its silly to treat someones ass as if it were their exposed brain.

As for the muslim values not being compatible with the western society...here i agree. There are some fundamental diferences which won't allow them to ever fully integrate.
In my country, we have very few muslims, and during the begining of the Syrian war, we received quite a few muslim refugees. It didnt take long for one of them to tie his wife to a radiator and set her on fire...for some trivial household shit.

It was an assault of a sexual nature and it’s a crime. The difference between this and more serious sexual assaults is only one of degree not a difference of type.

Muslim women are killed by their families for ‘not sufficiently defending their honor’ so when so assaulted, on the eve of their wedding no less, such overreaction is almost understandable. You don’t get to ‘disarm’ a woman who armed herself to defend against an assault you initiated. Now if she sliced him before he tried to do this then I agree she was in the wrong, but he was attacking her fairly aggressively from the video.

[MikeyP]

ummm......yeah. Wouldn't call them "colleagues" per se...

[felixhelix420]

He initiated a physical assault. Good for her.

[Dream78]

The guy seemed the aggressive one in this situation. He was twice the size as the woman he was fighting with.

[Ferocity]

Originally Posted by bliss ↗

I don't think you understand. He was the aggressor, he was not defending himself.

Bro you're wrong; a victim and an aggressor can attack others and defend themselves at any point during an altercation.

[xCellarxDoorx]

Well thats the end for him I guess.

[RUTHIE7]

Hmmm, he was shouting and hitting her. She was way smaller than him too. I think it'll be down to her protecting herself because geez he SLAPPED HER HARD... then he went in AGAIN... to probably whack her AGAIN. She was pushing him AWAY from her... to begin with. Then he went in for more of a beating. He was attacking her BADLY...

Shame man. Rip man.

People... learn to fuckin WALK AWAY. Then come back and TALK.