[The Driver]

you just got to love or hate drugs

[ro4eva]

we werent talking of anti biotics we were talking of METH

You said, "there is NO REASON TO PUT MAN MADE CHAMICAL into you body."

Pardon me for trying to figure out your grammar, but it sounds like you're talking about a whole lot more than methamphetamine.

and none of that shit in those labs are safe for you

So you are talking about more than methamphetamine then?

"There are countless fully functional adults with well paying full-time white collar jobs" ...who?

There's a difference between personally knowing countless fully functional adults with well paying full-time white collar jobs who use man made chemicals and reading about it. I'll provide you with some links if you're so inclined.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/20...21_209881.html

http://www.genins.com/img/~www.genin...al%20Drugs.pdf

http://oas.samhsa.gov/work1996/ch6.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19787720...s-using-drugs/

full time meth users dont have white collar jobs in my state

I bet you're wrong. Methamphetamine is a Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S. It's available by prescription (google Desoxyn if you'd like to know more) and it's indicated for ADD, Narcolepsy and Obesity.

they steal copper wires

Copper wires?! You don't say.

and if someone is seriously affected by a medical disorder then it would be under a DOCTORS CARE thats fine!

Is it? Even if the doctor prescribes the patient a man made chemical?

people who tweek out because they cant "cope" are fucking idiots!

Methamphetamine is very addictive. Drug addiction is a mental disease according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It is used in the United States of America and in varying degrees around the world, by clinicians, researchers, psychiatric drug regulation agencies, health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and policy makers.

Case in point... It's easier said than done for a tweaker to quit tweaking.

ok idk where YOU LIVE but where I LIVE that shit is stepped on so many damn times and cut with everything from baby powder to ajax! natural ..umm not a chance

I live in Canada, in an apartment igloo.

You're talking about something completely different here. You're trying to tell me that blow isn't natural because it's cut with everything from baby powder to ajax! Meanwhile I've simply been trying to tell you that pure cocaine comes from a plant. Then I asked you if that's okay (because it's not man made).

By the way, currently most of the world's cocaine is cut with a rather dangerous drug known as Levamisole. Levamsiole suppresses the production of white blood cells, resulting in neutropenia and agranulocytosis. Levamisole-tainted cocaine was linked to several high-profile deaths. Toxicology reports showed that levamisole, along with cocaine, was present in DJ AM's body at the time of his death.

Furthermore, methamphetamine is not a man made chemical. It occurs naturally in the genus Acacia berlandieri species which is a type of shrub native to Mexico and southwestern United States.

really ? let me take you to Desert hot springs ill show you that they can make it with sudafed and colemanfuel and i found a recipe used for your non man made mexican plant and it still calls for all sorts of ghastly products before it ca even yield!
denature alcohol
Zippo lighter fluid
lye

/facepalm

I'm guessing you don't realize that a substance can be synthesized using natural compounds, natural and synthetic (semisynthetic) compounds or completely synthetic compounds.

All you're telling me here is how to synthesize methamphetamine using a pretty lousy and messy semisynthetic collection of household products. Actually there's an easier way to make a batch, which I'll share with you. All you need is some ephedrine (or pseudoephedrine), some iodine (you can buy iodized table salt from your local grocery store) and some red phosphorus (you can scrape all you'll ever need off a couple dozen matchbooks).

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And also, take it easy... I'm not here to try to insult you or to pick a fight on the internets. This isn't the WoW forums.

[kakasaku]

Originally Posted by ro4eva ↗

You said, "there is NO REASON TO PUT MAN MADE CHAMICAL into you body."

Pardon me for trying to figure out your grammar, but it sounds like you're talking about a whole lot more than methamphetamine.



So you are talking about more than methamphetamine then?



There's a difference between personally knowing countless fully functional adults with well paying full-time white collar jobs who use man made chemicals and reading about it. I'll provide you with some links if you're so inclined.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/20...21_209881.html

http://www.genins.com/img/~www.genin...al%20Drugs.pdf

http://oas.samhsa.gov/work1996/ch6.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19787720...s-using-drugs/



I bet you're wrong. Methamphetamine is a Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S. It's available by prescription (google Desoxyn if you'd like to know more) and it's indicated for ADD, Narcolepsy and Obesity.



Copper wires?! You don't say.



Is it? Even if the doctor prescribes the patient a man made chemical?



Methamphetamine is very addictive. Drug addiction is a mental disease according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It is used in the United States of America and in varying degrees around the world, by clinicians, researchers, psychiatric drug regulation agencies, health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and policy makers.

Case in point... It's easier said than done for a tweaker to quit tweaking.



I live in Canada, in an apartment igloo.

You're talking about something completely different here. You're trying to tell me that blow isn't natural because it's cut with everything from baby powder to ajax! Meanwhile I've simply been trying to tell you that pure cocaine comes from a plant. Then I asked you if that's okay (because it's not man made).

By the way, currently most of the world's cocaine is cut with a rather dangerous drug known as Levamisole. Levamsiole suppresses the production of white blood cells, resulting in neutropenia and agranulocytosis. Levamisole-tainted cocaine was linked to several high-profile deaths. Toxicology reports showed that levamisole, along with cocaine, was present in DJ AM's body at the time of his death.



/facepalm

I'm guessing you don't realize that a substance can be synthesized using natural compounds, natural and synthetic (semisynthetic) compounds or completely synthetic compounds.

All you're telling me here is how to synthesize methamphetamine using a pretty lousy and messy semisynthetic collection of household products. Actually there's an easier way to make a batch, which I'll share with you. All you need is some ephedrine (or pseudoephedrine), some iodine (you can buy iodized table salt from your local grocery store) and some red phosphorus (you can scrape all you'll ever need off a couple dozen matchbooks).

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And also, take it easy... I'm not here to try to insult you or to pick a fight on the internets. This isn't the WoW forums.

This isn't the WoW forums.

TOUCHE!
no indeed im am not trying to pick a fight lol
i am merely stating that YES i know coke is from a damn plant lol
YES i know FM and narcolepsy are very horrible conditions
YES i know that even prescribed med are made in a lab HOWEVER they are cleaner because they are "Designer"
I wasnt telling you anything other than to debate you saying METH IS NATURAL it most certainly isnt
what i am saying is that
70 percent say robberies or burglaries have increased because of meth use.
62 percent report increases in domestic violence because of meth use.
THATS JUST FACT LOVE
idk how you guys are in Canada but i hope its not like it is here

[kakasaku]

Originally Posted by ro4eva ↗

You said, "there is NO REASON TO PUT MAN MADE CHAMICAL into you body."

Pardon me for trying to figure out your grammar, but it sounds like you're talking about a whole lot more than methamphetamine.
The DEA classifies methamphetamine as a Schedule II controlled substance, the second-highest classification that also includes cocaine and morphine. According to the Controlled Substances Act, Schedule II narcotics are described as having a high potential for abuse, leading to severe psychological or physical dependence while having an appropriate medical use in certain situations.

The federal government sets minimum sentencing requirements for traffickers of methamphetamine depending on the amount of meth seized and previous offenses. One example: the federal government requires that first-time methamphetamine traffickers with possession of more than 50 grams be sentenced to at least 10 years in prison.







So you are talking about more than methamphetamine then?



There's a difference between personally knowing countless fully functional adults with well paying full-time white collar jobs who use man made chemicals and reading about it. I'll provide you with some links if you're so inclined.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/20...21_209881.html

http://www.genins.com/img/~www.genin...al%20Drugs.pdf

http://oas.samhsa.gov/work1996/ch6.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19787720...s-using-drugs/



I bet you're wrong. Methamphetamine is a Schedule II controlled substance in the U.S. It's available by prescription (google Desoxyn if you'd like to know more) and it's indicated for ADD, Narcolepsy and Obesity.



Copper wires?! You don't say.



Is it? Even if the doctor prescribes the patient a man made chemical?



Methamphetamine is very addictive. Drug addiction is a mental disease according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. It is used in the United States of America and in varying degrees around the world, by clinicians, researchers, psychiatric drug regulation agencies, health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and policy makers.

Case in point... It's easier said than done for a tweaker to quit tweaking.



I live in Canada, in an apartment igloo.

You're talking about something completely different here. You're trying to tell me that blow isn't natural because it's cut with everything from baby powder to ajax! Meanwhile I've simply been trying to tell you that pure cocaine comes from a plant. Then I asked you if that's okay (because it's not man made).

By the way, currently most of the world's cocaine is cut with a rather dangerous drug known as Levamisole. Levamsiole suppresses the production of white blood cells, resulting in neutropenia and agranulocytosis. Levamisole-tainted cocaine was linked to several high-profile deaths. Toxicology reports showed that levamisole, along with cocaine, was present in DJ AM's body at the time of his death.



/facepalm

I'm guessing you don't realize that a substance can be synthesized using natural compounds, natural and synthetic (semisynthetic) compounds or completely synthetic compounds.

All you're telling me here is how to synthesize methamphetamine using a pretty lousy and messy semisynthetic collection of household products. Actually there's an easier way to make a batch, which I'll share with you. All you need is some ephedrine (or pseudoephedrine), some iodine (you can buy iodized table salt from your local grocery store) and some red phosphorus (you can scrape all you'll ever need off a couple dozen matchbooks).

----------------------------------

And also, take it easy... I'm not here to try to insult you or to pick a fight on the internets. This isn't the WoW forums.

This isn't the WoW forums.

TOUCHE!
no indeed im am not trying to pick a fight lol
i am merely stating that YES i know coke is from a damn plant lol
YES i know FM and narcolepsy are very horrible conditions
YES i know that even prescribed med are made in a lab HOWEVER they are cleaner because they are "Designer"
I wasnt telling you anything other than to debate you saying METH IS NATURAL it most certainly isnt
what i am saying is that
70 percent say robberies or burglaries have increased because of meth use.
62 percent report increases in domestic violence because of meth use.
THATS JUST FACT LOVE
idk how you guys are in Canada but i hope its not like it is here

[kakasaku]

oh and PS here in USA the red phosphorus isnt usable from matches
oh yes i would have to say that due to the dilution of the finshed product after the fact cocaine here is NOT natural even if it started that way

[ro4eva]

Originally Posted by kakasaku ↗

I wasnt telling you anything other than to debate you saying METH IS NATURAL it most certainly isnt

Here's an article on the plant (a shrub) which produces methamphetamine (previously believed to be a human invention):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri

This effectively means meth is natural. I don't know why you still insist on saying it isn't. In all honesty, for the longest time I wouldn't believe it either.

Certain forms of methamphetamine such crystal meth are man made, just like crack or powder cocaine. However, methamphetamine (the molecular structure C10H15N) is a naturally occurring substance.

[ro4eva]

And as far as diluting cocaine goes, are you talking about reducing the concentration of the chemical structure (C17H21NO4)? Because that would make make cocaine an entirely different chemical, which would change how it works in the body, which would cause unpredictable effects on the user, which I've never heard of being done to an illicit drug which has always been highly in demand. Do you have any links to any articles related to this?

[Adam76]

Ya, dumb ass! Cant believe people do drugs!.....now i am going to finish this joint, and look at some more pictures on here.

[ro4eva]

Hey Kakasaku... More DoTs!

[kandystar]

well this has gotten interesting.