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09-25-2014, 01:51 PM
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Re: Two Serious Traffic Accidents, One Victim Unidentifiable
You're not kidding. I remember visiting my girlfriend's place, and parking outside only to smell the most horrid odor in my life. As it turned out, there was a dead cat laying by the curb for about two weeks, and the drainage water running past and through it would prevent the carcass from dehydrating out. So for over two months, there was this putrid smell of rotten flesh in the area because no one wanted to haul away the dead cat, let alone knew where it was at. Rotted flesh and burnt flesh are the most unforgettable smells you will never forget in your entire life. |
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#33
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09-25-2014, 02:52 PM
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Re: Two Serious Traffic Accidents, One Victim Unidentifiable
I'm not sure about where the anti-police undercurrent is coming from. I have noticed a marked skeptaskism about law enforcement in the young folks in my college classes...but I do teach only criminal justice classes so I wouldn't expect to see many 99%ers or rabid anti-police types...but it's a growing trend. It's almost a cynicism against the whole government and they throw the police in with that. Even the veterans in my classes are showing a cynicism greater than their age or experience would warrant. If it's the news or media I'm not seeing it...not saying the news/media aren't morally corrupt, but no more so than usual. There is just a hard core section of young folks that seem to think they are supposed to question the police. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but there's a time and place. When I was a kid, there were no higher callings than to become a police officer, firefighter, or serve in the military. I sure wish I knew what was causing the anti-police sentiment. It's interesting that you're seeing it in younger kids. My girls are 11 and 12 and I haven't seen it yet in any of their friends or teachers for that matter...yet. But it just breaks my heart to see how awful some folks are regarding law enforcement. It seems to be mostly emotional gut reactions, because no one really makes a logical concise argument...at least here on DR. They just don't like what they see...nothing hard behind their feelings...they just don't like it. Odd isn't it?
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#34
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09-25-2014, 02:54 PM
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Re: Two Serious Traffic Accidents, One Victim Unidentifiable
And you're correct...it's not just semi-criminals or folks that have been arrested...it's coming from stable middle class folks without an axe to grind. That's a weird trend.
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09-25-2014, 08:08 PM
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Re: Two Serious Traffic Accidents, One Victim Unidentifiable
It's funny how that this is a gore sight and shows some pretty nasty photos and videos, but you just miss so much only looking at photos and videos...it's so much different than being there. Reality is so much more...disturbing and greasy. I had forgotten a lot of the small details from that crash (for instance it was more like sixty passengers that died not one hundred plus...there just seemed to be more due to the parts/pieces issues) until I posted about it. As I age I forget some of the small details, but I really will never forget the odd, out of sorts, and askew things you see at that kind of a mass casualty incident. The best way I can describe what that scene looked like was the weird shaky camera effects in the very first part of Saving Private Ryan...the part where they're going into Omaha Beach. That's very much what that crash sight looked like to me...and for that matter every shooting I've ever been involved in. It's just oddly goofed up and kinda crooked, like you only have one contact in...at least that's how I remember it now. At the time of the crash I didn't really think about how strangely quiet it was at the scene. There was the noise of wood creaking and the sound of the small fires crackling and sizzling, but everyone there...police, fire, ems, citizens, media, were just wandering around doing their jobs quietly in a daze. We all were doing our jobs, but everyone was whispering...weird isn't it? The smells are always what everyone remembers, but in this case it wasn't so much the typical rotting body smell as it was a kind of all encompassing smell of death and a little hint of wood smoked barbecue. It wasn't really that bad...of course, it got way way worse later. I clearly remember the smell of water on the hot asphalt and concrete and the jet fuel that was coating everything and settling in little pools. There was blood and it's iron like smell, but there wasn't very much blood...it was only around some of the body parts and was strangely thin and watery...like at the butcher shop. I can recall walking around wondering how we were supposed to pick up the pieces (or if we should pick up the pieces) and if it would be wrong to use a fork...we really had no idea. We later just flagged the pieces for evidence photography and scene mapping. Looking back on it, I think the only thing that got me through that was my looking at things from a scientific perspective...like, wow...look how that person fused with that piece of wood or metal. I never allowed myself to look at the pieces as human or formerly human...I just worked through the situation and kept going. I haven't talked about that crash in many years. Thank you all for your kind comments. |
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09-25-2014, 09:39 PM
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Re: Two Serious Traffic Accidents, One Victim Unidentifiable
Thank you very much for sharing it. I spent a few hours reading about the PSA crash and other accounts of witnesses on the scene that day because of your posts. I personally find first hand info like yours just as compelling and interesting as the pictures themselves. And thanks for your service in law enforcement as well. |