[Dregen]

The general consensus based on evidence is that the 2 girls tried to cross the river using monkey bridges (their bodies were found near 2 different monkey bridges).

Lisanne Froon, the less athletic of the two, probably slipped and fell from the monkey bridge to her death. This explains why her phone was locked through several incorrect PIN entries - her friend likely tried to hack into it to try to use what remaining battery power it had.

Kris Kremers likely suffered the same fate on her attempt to cross the 2nd monkey bridge - except she survived the fall with severe injuries. The shoe with her foot in it contained several broken bones, and the last flurry of calls to 911 near the end was probably because she realized she was too injured to go on and had no other option except to hope the calls went through - her hail mary, so to speak.

The girls had initially walked downstream of the river in the hopes of finding a settlement, but when they realized it was the wrong decision they attempted to get to higher ground (probably to get a cell signal). This was the reason they attempted the dangerous monkey bridge crossing.

Had Kris Kremers been able to successfully cross the bridges (she came very close), she might have been able to call for help and be rescued. We'll never know for sure though, and it will probably remain that way.

[Dregen]

The broken up body parts incite mystery but can be explained due to the fast decomposition in the forest - as well as all the hungry animals taking a delicious nibble from the girl's rotting bodies.

At the very least, Lisanne's family can have some closure with her pelvis, and Kris' family is lucky enough to receive her broken decomposed foot.

[Oswald2001]

I can't help but think that two young attractive women wandering around in Third World country wildernesses is...ill advised.


It reminds me of all the explanations of Cambodian deaths as being 'unfortunate' and yet supposedly not being due to foul play.

Many places want to maintain the flow of tourist dollars and adjust their 'explanations' accordingly.


I remain...unconvinced.



The women could have easily been followed, raped and disposed of.

A jungle environment would be very conducive to the elimination of evidence.

And anyone could have tried and tried to use a found phone.

[Bletch]

Never heard of this. Interesting but sad.

[LrlynJy]

Originally Posted by fendi87 ↗

Sometimes I wonder why god gives women a brain they never use it

in the case of women who ever liked or loved you, your statement maybe true . haha. peace.

[Dregen]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

I can't help but think that two young attractive women wandering around in Third World country wildernesses is...ill advised.


It reminds me of all the explanations of Cambodian deaths as being 'unfortunate' and yet supposedly not being due to foul play.

Many places want to maintain the flow of tourist dollars and adjust their 'explanations' accordingly.


I remain...unconvinced.



The women could have easily been followed, raped and disposed of.

A jungle environment would be very conducive to the elimination of evidence.

And anyone could have tried and tried to use a found phone.

The incorrect PIN entries were recorded after the photo of the bloody head was taken. Also I find it unlikely that they took that many pictures over the course of a week and not one of them was of the rapists.

If the rapists had wanted to dispose of evidence why would they leave the cell phones - two of the most obvious smoking guns one would want to eliminate if they were guilty?

[Meridian]

The first pictures of them happy and enjoying the hike were taken on 1st April. After that no more photos were taken until 8th April when the 90 photos were taken at night, including the one of Kris’s head with the wound. They had little food with them. Last time one of the phones was switched on was 11th April. Both phones were found in a backpack with the camera and clothes.

I think Kris the redhead died on that 8th April and Lisanne used the camera to document the location so the body could be found. She survived a further 3 days before succumbing.

The scattering of bones suggests scavengers although theories say there were no scratches or signs of that. So few bones were found too - no heads or larger parts than that one pelvis. The bodies were quite high up which was cooler and not consistent with the speed of decomposition required.

All sorts of wild theories out there. It is a mystery but I think it’s more likely they got lost on that first day, tried 77 times to call for help on cell phones but had no signal, one died first then the other died a few days later and their remains were eaten. 11 days with no food is quite remarkable really. Poor girls though. That is a terrible way to die. What a story they could have told, had they made it out.

[GiJoe7898]

I spent 3 years in Panama and married a Panamanian. The metro area has bad places (best places to party) but the interior is tranquil. It seems to be a case of 2 people thinking they could overcome the challenges of the terrain. The jungle is not a learn as you go experience.

[Momomomomo]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

It reminds me of all the explanations of Cambodian deaths as being 'unfortunate' and yet supposedly not being due to foul play.

Many places want to maintain the flow of tourist dollars and adjust their 'explanations' accordingly.

Good point, but the hikers' parents did end up flying down with some detectives from the Netherlands only a couple days after they went missing.

[kasapin]

Originally Posted by Meridian ↗

All sorts of wild theories out there. It is a mystery but I think it’s more likely they got lost on that first day, tried 77 times to call for help on cell phones but had no signal, one died first then the other died a few days later and their remains were eaten. 11 days with no food is quite remarkable really. Poor girls though. That is a terrible way to die. What a story they could have told, had they made it out.

11 Days no food is quite survivable... especially in a jungle setting where you will always find something to munch on. Most likely the mosquitoes fucked them up quite bad... or drank some contaminated water ...