[Username1956]

Originally Posted by windowlicker ↗

Belgian stuntman Alain Vincx at the Zandvoort race track on the 25th May 1987. The stunt went very wrong as Alain was de-capitated when his car caught the roof of one of the coaches and the top half of the vehicle was ripped off.

Was not at all aware of this, so went to the google to read what is out there and found this.

[mtakala]

In 24 Hours of Le Mans 2015, Aston driver Roald Goethe badly hurt his back when a LMP1 Porsche touched his Aston and sent him backwards into concrete barriers. Goethe underwent groundbreaking keyhole surgery to inject surgical cement around his broken vertebrae.

TV angle of this crash was particularly poor, and also the level of difficulty of extrication was not shown on TV. Has anyone stumbled upon any aftermath material?

[Barton Farley]

The huge Le Mans 24 Hours accident for Aston Martin Racing driver Roald Goethe that left the German gentleman driver with two fractured vertebrae was triggered by contact from the race winning #19 Porsche 919 Hybrid, driven at the time by Nico Hulkenberg it emerged today (June 23rd).

“It was a racing incident, a miscalculation on his part, I am not in any way suggesting that there was an intention to push me out of the way but the result was the worst possible thing, at one of the worst possible places on the track.

“I was committed to the racing line, in a part of the circuit where there are very limited options in a GT car. I have heard, and read, some reports that I was at fault, that I was in some way ‘spooked’ off the track. That’s not true.

“I’m sure he realised he’d made the wrong choice and tried to take avoiding action but he ended up clipping my left front corner with his right rear at a point when my car was on the limit, turning in at high speed, that was enough to unsettle the car and the result was the accident. “His choice was to take a different line, which I could not do, or to wait and go by on the exit, yes it would have cost him some time, maybe half a second, but he chose badly!"

The incident led both to the accident which all but destroyed the #96 and saw Goethe airlifted to a specialist orthopaedic surgeon in Monaco where keyhole surgery on the two fractured vertebrae, in a procedure very similar to that which saw Kazuki Nakajima’s Spa injuries show remarkable progress, allowing the Japanese Toyota factory man to compete at Le Mans.

“They used a process known as ‘spinal jacking’ and then injected cement, I now have to wait 2-3 weeks for the bone and muscle trauma to heal and then will have another scan to see where I stand. I am out of bed and walking but can’t bend. After an impact like that though I am very lucky indeed."

“We have a saying in Germany that I have had good luck in my bad luck!”

Whilst Goethe was relatively generous in his comments around the initial incident he was rather more directly critical of the safety standards that applied at the point of eventual impact.

“If you have a problem at that point there is a straight line to a head on impact with a concrete wall, no tyre layer protection, no SAFER barrier, nothing. That really is not good enough."

[The Dark]

I think my heart just slowed back to normal after watching the Indycar race this afternoon, pack racing is still not cool Indycar. You dodged a bullet today, way too many memories of multiple crashes from this type of racing. I'm sure crashes will soon be on youtube, but good news nobody injured in them.

[FivOh]

Originally Posted by The Dark ↗

I think my heart just slowed back to normal after watching the Indycar race this afternoon, pack racing is still not cool Indycar. You dodged a bullet today, way too many memories of multiple crashes from this type of racing. I'm sure crashes will soon be on youtube, but good news nobody injured in them.

Pack racing on ovals is the only way I see to make open-wheel racing entertaining on ovals (except for Indy, of course). I thought a lot about the state of open-wheel racing in the U.S. while watching that race and seeing the mostly empty grandstand. How is this type of racing so successful in Europe but barely noticed in America? Indycars in very tight packs on high-speed ovals is incredibly exciting, but it's the motorsport equivalent of Russian roulette. I suggest they accept those risks and continue racing on ovals or focus exclusively on street and road course racing. If they stay on ovals they should milk it for all it's worth and market the hell out of the danger of it. Otherwise, they put all their efforts into road and street racing and how exciting it can be even without the constant fear of someone getting killed. Of course you still keep Indy as it is.

[fortythree]

It's a sad fact that safer means less exiting for many of us. Safer barriers, safer cars, safer drivers. It's down to the people out on the track to pass true judgement on the sport. When you look at oval racing in the States in the 50's and 60's I think you have to bear in in mind that a lot of those drivers probably saw military service or lost friends to it and were probably more relaxed around the concept of sudden death. Into the 70's and early 80's you maybe start to get guys chasing the big money? Chet Miller died in this Novi Special practising for His 17th Indy 500 in 1953

[The Dark]

Originally Posted by TheFallOfTroyML ↗

today a crash occured at the f1 suzuka gp involving jules bianchi.

if anyone can provide info, pics or even a video it would be much appreciated


besides: ultra awesome thread !

Regrettably Jules Bianchi died in the early hours of this morning, he had been in a coma since the accident. Just 25 and a future star. RIP.

#ForzaJules

[kustom80]

Originally Posted by The Dark ↗

Regrettably Jules Bianchi died in the early hours of this morning, he had been in a coma since the accident. Just 25 and a future star. RIP.

#ForzaJules

First person since Ayrton Senna I believe. RIP.

[40043mo]

RIP Jules.
Yes, The first F1 driver since Aryton Senna in 1994 to die from injuries sustained while racing.

Jules fucked up. He went off the track at the wrong spot and at the wrong time.

[mtakala]

Originally Posted by 40043mo ↗

RIP Jules.
Jules fucked up. He went off the track at the wrong spot and at the wrong time.

Thats so wrong to say it like that :(

The race was held later than it should have, the lighting conditions were starting to be poor, and there was that rain and a "river" across the track at that point.

FIA should never have allowed races so late, and there should have been a strict rule on how to drive when there are double waved yellows. Also there shouldn't have been a lethal-to-hit tractor around the side of the track when cars are still racing with undefined speeds during the double yellows. These are the main reason for crash. All of these have now been solved and looked into by the FIA.

I still would like to see more head protection for drivers, but hating all canopy ideas....

And of course none of this speculation is going to bring Jules back. RIP.