[wee_yumi]

What crystal formation?
BTW it's nice and toasty in the southern hemisphere right now, it's the summer!

[LittleNightmare]

[johnleeknoefler]

Originally Posted by wee_yumi ↗

What crystal formation?
BTW it's nice and toasty in the southern hemisphere right now, it's the summer!

Ice forms crystals ... thought everyone knew that. That is how it destroys tissue. The crystals rupture the cell walls. When the cells are thawed out they are ripped up and dead. No chance for life in the cells after the ice cuts the cells walls.

[gatagato]

That's sailor John Hartnell, 25 years of age, who died on January 4, 1846 during Franklin's lost expedition.




The ultimate cause of his death is tought to be pneumonia but lead poisoning has been most likely a contributing factor: it's still unclear which was the source of the lead.
Interesting article HERE

[Pyramid_Head]

Geez being burned or froze to death is easily two of the worst ways to die.

[slider1964]

Originally Posted by gatagato ↗

That's sailor John Hartnell, 25 years of age, who died on January 4, 1846 during Franklin's lost expedition.
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The ultimate cause of his death is tought to be pneumonia but lead poisoning has been most likely a contributing factor: it's still unclear which was the source of the lead.
Interesting article HERE

I am so glad you posted this, because i was going to have too .. i am reading a book about it right now called 'frozen in time" I haven't looked at your link, but the lead poisoning did for a "fact"came from the cans of rations that they were eating from . Tin cans were new at that time and they soldered the seams with lead. At the time they had no clue that lead was bad for you. so i don't know why that person would say they didnt know the source of the lead poisoning?? It was probably in other things too , like paint,dishes ect. But the cans killed em...

[gatagato]

Originally Posted by slider1964 ↗

so i don't know why that person would say they didnt know the source of the lead poisoning?? It was probably in other things too , like paint,dishes ect. But the cans killed em...

Thanks for pointing it out: many sources (including wikipedia) indicate multiple possible sources, that's why I mentioned it. Frozen in time has to be the best work about this story and I MUST get it as soon ASAP:
btw, the article in the link that I've posted was written by Owen Beattie, one of the authors of Frozen in time
Thanks for the info

[johnleeknoefler]

"it's still unclear which was the source of the lead"
I thought it was very clear. They were eating tinned food. That is food that had been packed in tin cans that were sealed with lead. It was the early days of the canning process. So they just didn't know.

[Djurplagare]

being cold will not make you hotter

[johnleeknoefler]

Originally Posted by 40bud ↗

Dont you just die from hypothermia before you freeze to death?
Not very educated on it by the way, just what i always thought

I just had to comment on this comment... LOL.
You would normally start freezing from the extremities inward if it is cold enough. But you can die from hypothermia even when it is not cold enough to freeze. Any exposure that will chill your body much below it's threshhold will kill you. I forget the exact temperatures unless I looked them up.
And you can lose quite a bit of your arms, legs, nose, cheeks, lips, and ears to freezing without dying from hypothermia.
Sorry for laughing but it is a funny question when you think about it. You obviously can't freeze to death if you are already dead from hypothermia. Or vice versa... But I got what you meant.

From Wiki
"Hypothermia (from Greek υποθερμία) is a condition in which core temperature drops below the required temperature for normal metabolism and body functions which is defined as 35.0 °C (95.0 °F). Body temperature is usually maintained near a constant level of 36.5–37.5 °C (98–100 °F) through biologic homeostasis or thermoregulation. If exposed to cold and the internal mechanisms are unable to replenish the heat that is being lost, a drop in core temperature occurs. As body temperature decreases, characteristic symptoms occur such as shivering and mental confusion.

The lowest documented body temperature from which anyone has recovered was 13.0 °C (55.4 °F), in a drowning incident involving a 7-year-old girl named Wyatt Begay in Sweden in December 2010."